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07-26-2008, 05:31 AM
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Mmm...beer.
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Carafa I, II, and III are the same grain roasted to differing levels. All can be sold intact or dehusked, so look for the dehusked variety (sometimes marked "Carafa Special").
Typical SRM:
Carafa I - 320
Carafa II - 415
Carafa III - 525
Think of it like chocolate malt, and actually in terms of chocolate. Carafa I is light chocolate, Carafa II is semi-sweet, and Carafa III is dark chocolate. The dehusked varieties add a mild, smooth roastiness while imparting a lot of color, while the intact ones can be treated much like chocolate malt.
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07-26-2008, 05:36 AM
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Location: Amherst, NY
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Thanks Yuri, a wealth of information as always. So it sounds like III (dehusked) is the best bet. I am looking to make a nice crisp, clean, maybe slightly fruity, slightly roasty version so I want to keep the recipe as a whole very light, somewhere around 1.011 FG at 4.5-5%abv
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07-26-2008, 05:39 AM
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Location: Torrance, CA
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Yuri has it right with the color ratings
Carafa Special is the dehusked kind. Carafa Special II seems to be the easiest for me to find. Morebeer and Northern Brewer carry it. If you can only find the II, use more to get the same color you would for III.
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07-26-2008, 05:40 AM
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Mmm...beer.
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Location: Southwest
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Austin Homebrew sells Carafa III (dehusked).
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07-26-2008, 05:47 AM
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Location: Torrance, CA
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As far as recipes go, get a copy of Brewing Classic Styles by John Palmer and Jamil Zainasheff. The best recipe book out there.
Here's the two Schwartzbier recipes from the book, an American version and a Classic, almost no roasty version. Both are based on 6 gallons at 70% efficiency. I doing the first recipe on Sunday.
Doing It In The Dark
4.6 lbs German Pilsner
6.1 lbs German Munich
6.0 oz Crystal 40
6.0 oz Chocolate Malt
3.5 oz Black Roasted Barley
3.5 oz Carafa Special II
Hallertau 4.0% Pellets
1.65 oz 60 min
0.5 oz 20 min
0.5 oz 0 min
Mash at 154 for 60 minutes
90 min boil
White Labs WLP830 German Lager yeast
German Schwartzbier
9 lbs German Pilsner
1 lb German Munich
11.0 oz Carafa Special II
Hallertau 4.0% Pellets
1.65 oz 60 min
0.5 oz 20 min
0.5 oz 0 min
Mash 151 for 60 minutes
90 minute boil
White Labs WLP830 German Lager yeast
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07-26-2008, 05:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Amherst, NY
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that second recipe looks very good. Thanks guys. This is next Fridays brew
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07-26-2008, 06:05 AM
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Location: Grand Ledge, Mich
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When I listened to Jamil's show about the Schwarzbier he said he Ground the Carafa into a powder and sprinkled onto the mash. That is what I did and I copied everything in his recipe.
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