Your opinion on my Cascadian Orange Pale Ale

[trigin]

Hi guys, yesterday I brewed a pale ale. The recipe is inspired to the Orange Pale Ale of blacklab.
I put some pictures on Facebook and some friends commented that the quantity of cardamon was too high and that 1 or 2 seeds were enough.

Now the beer is done so I have to wait and to see how it will turn out.
It was the first time that I use this spice. Making the recipe I compared some recipes from this forum and from other sources and it didn't seem too much. I used 8 grams in 15 liters (0.3 ounces in 3.3 gallons).

HOME BREW RECIPE:
Title: Orange Cascadian Pale Ale
Author: Ste

Brew Method: All Grain
Style Name: American Pale Ale
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 14.5 liters (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 20.7 liters
Boil Gravity: 1.028
Efficiency: 72% (brew house)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.040
Final Gravity: 1.008
ABV (standard): 4.13%
IBU (tinseth): 28.94
SRM (morey): 5.8

FERMENTABLES:
2.032 kg - United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale (79.6%)
0.074 kg - German - Munich Light (2.9%)
0.127 kg - German - Vienna (5%)
0.129 kg - American - Victory (5.1%)
0.118 kg - German - Wheat Malt (4.6%)
0.074 kg - Flaked Oats (2.9%)

HOPS:
11 g - magnum, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 10.5, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 22.43
11 g - Cascade, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 6, Use: Boil for 10 min, IBU: 4.65
15 g - Cascade, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 6, Use: Whirlpool for 0 min at 90 °C, IBU: 1.86

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Infusion, Temp: 64 C, Time: 60 min, Amount: 23.8 L, No sparge
Starting Mash Thickness: 9.41 L/kg

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
40 g - Fresh orange zest, Time: 5 min, Type: Flavor, Use: Boil
8 g - Cardamon crushed, Time: 10 min, Type: Spice, Use: Boil

YEAST:
Danstar - Nottingham Ale Yeast
Starter: No
Form: Dry
Attenuation (avg): 77%
Flocculation: High
Optimum Temp: 13.89 - 21.11 C
Fermentation Temp: 17 C

What is your opinion? Will it be too spicy?

Thanks,
Steff

 

[Jimbodaman]

Personally I don't like Magnum hops but maybe you do haha. In that case It looks great to me.

 

[Sammy86]

I would have stuck with all cascade but that's just me. Recipe looks good!

 

[rhys333]

It looks good to me. Since they are similar, I might go with 8% of either Vienna OR Munich rather than small amounts of both. Perhaps go with either wheat or oats as well for the same reason. I might go with wheat, but if you choose oats grocery store quick oats work just as well for less cost that flaked. I find larger and fewer specialty malt additions make for a more interesting beer. Magnum is a nice clean hop for bittering and cascade/orange sounds like an interesting combination too. I can't really speak to the cardamon though as I have never used it.

 

[trigin]

Hi Guys thanks for your answers
Magnum is not that bad and I don't care too much about bittering hop...
using cascade for bittering I think it is a bit wasted...it is just 6% AA and you need to double the quantity to have the same IBU. If you want to stay in the same family maybe Centennial could be good.

rhys, I think I will simplify the recipe, I think I will go with Munich and not Vienna and Wheat and not oats.

By the way, it is the third brew with exactly the same grain bill changing just hops. The idea was to test different hops with the same malt base and to check the efficiency of the system and the consistency in different batches. I am satisfied for the moment. The first one turn out really good. It was a Mosaic Pale Ale. The second was an Amarillo mono hops, I tasted yesterday but it needs some more conditioning (just bottled one week ago). I cross the fingers for the third