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dimmy32

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Hi guys,
Last sunday I boiled some wort/hops and cooled it off very fast , by pouring it directly on 2 X 4L ice cubes of distilled water.
I added enough distilled water to bring the total volume up to 23 L. ( 5 gallons ) The wort temp dropped down to 12 C degrees . ( 54 F ) right away.
I aerated the wort, by stirring a lot, then pitched some dried yeast.
It's been in a basement, with a constant temp of 70 degrees.

Today is friday, and to date, the batch has not started bubbling.
Should I do something ? I dont wanna lose this batch....:confused:
 
Your complete recipe would help. What was the OG compared to the gravity now?
 
Only way to know if it's fermenting is by checking the gravity. Sometimes you may not see bubbles in the airlock, maybe the lid is loose or whatever. Maybe quickly open it up and pull a sample and take a reading.
 
thanks guys, will check tonight after work.
It's not a homemade recipe, its a beer kit...an irish red ale, very simple, not very hoppy.
I did take an initial reading with my hydrometer at least.

The wort is composed of liquid malt and hop pellets - the recipe said to add 4L of water to the wort - bring it to a boil, cut the heat and let simmer for 5 mins.
Cool it off fast with the leftover water to make a final volume of 23 L.
Pretty easy.

I assumed the airlock had to be bubbling, if the yeast was thriving.
To make things more complicated, the primary fermenter is not in my basement ( i dont have one ) , but in my buddy's basement ....he's kinda of disabled, and cannot check the beer himself, so I go over every 2-3 days .

thanks again !
 
Fermentation is not always dynamic...just because you don't SEE anything happening doesn't mean that the yeast aren't happily chewing away at whatever fermentables are in there....the only way to know comes from gravity readings, and nothing else.

Your airlock is NOT a fermentation gauge, despite what instructions or other people may have said. It is a VENT, and VALVE to release EXCESS co2 as needed. The amount of bubbles have no correlation to some concrete rate of fermentation. Initially there may be lots of bubbles, because lots of co2 is being generated in the first few days of fermentation. But eventually there's going to be less EXCESS co2 being produced, that doesn't mean fermentation is done, it just means that since most of the sugars have been consumed, the yeast are farting co2 less. SO the rate may change, or it may stop completely because there's no EXCESS being produced.

That's why you need to seperate the idea of bubbling = fermentation from your mindset.

Don't stress about what an airlock does or doesn't do. The rate or lack of or whether or not it bubbles at all, or if it starts and stops has more relation to the environment the fermenter is in, rather than fermentation itself. All it is is a vent, a valve to let our excess gas, especially co2, nothing else. It's not a fermentation gauge whatsoever.

It could just as easily be bubbling or stop bubbling for that matter, due to changes in barometric pressure, temperature, or whether or not the cat or vacuum cleaner bumped into it, as it could be to because it's still fermenting.

Activity, action, bubbles, even krausen can be affected by the envoironment just as much as it being caused by the yeast...so going by that is NOT reliable.


If you want to know what's going on with your beer, then take a gravity reading. The only way to truly know what is going on in your fermenter is with your hydrometer. Like I said here in my blog, which I encourage you to read, Think evaluation before action you sure as HELL wouldn't want a doctor to start cutting on you unless he used the proper diagnostic instuments like x-rays first, right? You wouldn't want him to just take a look in your eyes briefly and say "I'm cutting into your chest first thing in the morning." You would want them to use the right diagnostic tools before the slice and dice, right? You'd cry malpractice, I would hope, if they didn't say they were sending you for an MRI and other things before going in....

Do do anything just based on what an airlock does or doesn't do. You'll end up trying to "fix" something that isn't broken, and end up doing more damage, than if you'd just let things be.....
 
Thanks Revvy,
the link you provided gives me "page not found".
Pitching dry yeast at 12C wont damage it ?
 
Thanks Revvy,
the link you provided gives me "page not found".
Pitching dry yeast at 12C wont damage it ?

No 54F is not that cold, its definately below the standard fermentation temp but it shouldnt harm the yeast really...it just may take them a while longer to get started.
 
No 54F is not that cold, its definately below the standard fermentation temp but it shouldnt harm the yeast really...it just may take them a while longer to get started.

Agreed. Won't hurt the yeast at all - and if the beer warmed to that 70 degree ambient, it will be fine (if not a touch on the warm side).

If you can only check every 2-3 days, OP, it is entirely possible that you have missed the active stage of fermentation. You defintiely need to take a hydrometer readin.
 
you guys were totally right, i checked the s.g. and it went down pretty low.
I'll prolly bottle it in 2 more weeks...many thanks wise ones.
The beer smells nice too.
 
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