Well, we all took our shares in October. I heard Claphasma's turned to vinegar because of O2 exposure. No word on Al's. Mine are about to be bottled this week or next. I kept 3 gallons neutral, 3 mixed with 13 pounds of grenache grapes, and 3 gallons mixed with farm picked raspberries, about 8-9 pounds. To limit aceto I first filled my carboys with CO2 for a longer than normal amount of time, filled with fruit and beer, then purged again with CO2. All of my samplings have been superb. I plan to carb up all the beer but 6 or so of the un-fruited section.