Windows 11

[Hoochin'Fool]

Yeah, I read all the man pages for sort AND join. But join insists my file isn't sorted, when it bloody well is. But now I've figured out how to get sqlite3 to import my tab-delimited text files, and I'm a bazillion times more capable in SQL than I am in bash, so I'm happy now!

 

[sibelman]

I just saw this news from North Korea, which reminded me just a bit of Windows Recall.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

I have no problems and actually like it better than windows 10 but only on fast computers, my old workhorse dell laptop keeps running out memory, problems are expected on an old pc

 

[day_trippr]

Windows version 25H2 should be an easy update compared to 24H2

..."when you initiate the update from version 24H2 to version 25H2 later this year, it will only take as long as a normal cumulative update. It won't need to reinstall any system files, and will take just a few minutes to download, install, and then a short restart to complete the update. This is unlike the update experience going from version 23H2 to version 24H2, which required an "OS swap" which essentially replaces all your install files with newer versions"....

https://www.windowscentral.com/soft...windows-11-version-25h2-official-announcement

Of course they can still find plenty of ways to bork a stable installation

Cheers!

 

[balrog]

Windows version 25H2 should be an easy update compared to 24H2

..."when you initiate the update from version 24H2 to version 25H2 later this year, it will only take as long as a normal cumulative update. It won't need to reinstall any system files, and will take just a few minutes to download, install, and then a short restart to complete the update. This is unlike the update experience going from version 23H2 to version 24H2, which required an "OS swap" which essentially replaces all your install files with newer versions"....

https://www.windowscentral.com/soft...windows-11-version-25h2-official-announcement

Of course they can still find plenty of ways to bork a stable installation

Cheers!

Mmm-hmmm.

Time will tell.

 

[day_trippr]

Anyone know what the four tiny squares above the drive icon in this properties sheet mean?
Never seen that before...

Cheers!

 

[sibelman]

Anyone know what the four tiny squares above the drive icon in this properties sheet mean?

Maybe your drive is being managed by AI?

 

[day_trippr]

Lol!

I just checked my W10P laptop, and the W11P deskside I built for my wife in April, and both have the same four tiny squares above the C: drive - and now I'm pretty sure it's supposed to look like the Windows logo and indicates which drive was booted into Windows, and I just never noticed it on either Win10 or Win11 until tonight.

This clip is from the left panel in File Explorer and is what I noticed for the first time tonight...

Cheers!

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

The four squares kinda look like a Windows logo, and it's your C drive, so I'm guessing that it's telling you that it's the drive that you've booted your OS from.

 

[balrog]

I just checked my W10P laptop,

You got me.
I had to check.
Yep. Never noticed that before.

 

[burtom]

Windows 11. The worst version of Windows until the next version of Windows.

 

[balrog]

Windows 11. The worst version of Windows until the next version of Windows.

You should work for MS marketing!
I remember thinking every other version Grinched (stink stank stunk) and someone said they had two teams, but I never confirmed that.

 

[Brockness Monster]

Windows 11. The worst version of Windows until the next version of Windows.

Windows 11. Better than Windows 12!

 

[Kent88]

 

[sibelman]

Has your Windows 11 experience been anything like the nastiness described in this harsh indictment? Excerpt:

There is a word for intrusive, unwanted software that intervenes in your work to advertise or engage you in unwanted interaction. The same word describes software that constantly monitors and exfiltrates what’s going on between you and your data. That word is malware...

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

On Windows 10, search from the start menu is almost that bad. For me, simplest thing possible is to pin apps to the taskbar or start menu.

For the Office 2016 (CD purchase/install), there is still a steady stream of minor feature updates. A "co-pilot" button was added a couple of months ago.

And every couple of months, there's that "we interrupt your work flow to ask that you focus instead on updating to Windows 11" app - which starts automatically and places itself on top of everything else. *sigh*

 

[Zadkiel]

Windows 11. The worst version of Windows until the next version of Windows.

back around the start of the century we used to have a saying that the windows version was the bug count.
Win 3 & NT 4, pretty good
Win 95 & 98, a bit more unstable but not too bad
Windows 2000. Uhoh.
Millenium Edition. Nuke the drive from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. (and to be fair, it was ******* awful)

But then they changed the numbering system and the joke broke

 

[tracer bullet]

Finally went to 11 over last weekend. Immediately installed Start 11 so I could move the bar to the left side of the screen, and set up the 10 style icons (where the window swings out with all the tiles that can be grouped). So far so good, fairly seamless and painless so far.

 

[PCABrewing]

I too took the plunge over the last week.
Not flawless, I bought a new computer and the task has been data and app migration.
The primary issue has to do with my libraries being duplicated. Not data just the index itself.
I see others report the same issue but no definite solution. Has anybody here experienced this?

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

back around the start of the century we used to have a saying that the windows version was the bug count.
Win 3 & NT 4, pretty good
Win 95 & 98, a bit more unstable but not too bad
Windows 2000. Uhoh.
Millenium Edition. Nuke the drive from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. (and to be fair, it was ******* awful)

But then they changed the numbering system and the joke broke

This joke is old, and yet never gets old...

 

[sibelman]

I supported business users of Windows from 3 through 10, skipping the worst versions (ME & 8). IIRC, I also skipped 98 in favor of NT4. I'm very happy to no longer deal with Windows support.

In retirement, the sole benefit of my one Windows (10) machine is that I can't access Kanopy streaming with Raspberry Pi OS due to DRM.

I'm dithering about whether to upgrade the Win10 laptop to Ubuntu, or just leave it 'cuz it's really almost only for Kanopy streaming, and thus not much of a security worry once patches cease.

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

At my previous job (which increasingly seems like ancient history as I've been at my current job almost 18 years) our business was embedded computing. At the time, we had a ton of our customers on either Windows CE or Windows XP Embedded. Windows was dominant in the space.

This was before Linux had ascended, and in fact I left that job about a year before Android 1.0 was released...

 

[day_trippr]

Between home and work (chip and board architecture and design) I had to deal with nearly every desktop and server version of Windows, up until I retired in 2019 (before Server 2022 was released). Skipped the real basket cases wrt desktop versions (I guess "Bob" was not a Windows version but a shell stuffed with some apps). I liked XP, 7, and grew to like 10 and now 11.

Cheers!

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Just got a notice that windows 10 support is about to end, not a big deal for me but that says a lot about the direction they are going

 

[mac_1103]

What direction is that? Windows 10 was released in July, 2015. Are they supposed to support legacy software forever?

 

[balrog]

What direction is that? Windows 10 was released in July, 2015. Are they supposed to support legacy software forever?

If my order entry and ice cream mixing system requires I keep windows XP then by God we are keeping Windows XP and not upgrading to this 10 stuff.

Actual quote.

They had to use paper and pencil when ransom ware struck.

Try keeping FDA happy with product tracking on food stuffs w paper and pencil.

Fun times.

It’s one of the reasons God had Man invent beer.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

What direction is that? Windows 10 was released in July, 2015. Are they supposed to support legacy software forever?

October 15 2025 is what i saw, they may extend it

 

[day_trippr]

If my order entry and ice cream mixing system requires I keep windows XP then by God we are keeping Windows XP

I still have a working laptop with XP just to run the factory service manual for my 2000 Audi S4. That manual was never available in hardcopy, just a CD by Bentley Publishing, who pretty much abandoned their proprietary electronic manual platform when XP was retired. This thread prompted me to look back at Bentley and I found they have an updated platform that appears to include the manual I've been looking for (email inquiry sent).

Cheers!

 

[tracer bullet]

We've got some XP machines at work, they'll get replaced when they finally break. They aren't on the internet so they aren't complaining.

 

[sibelman]

support legacy software forever?

Microsoft told us Windows 10 would be the last, final version, patched and upgraded forever. Credible? Not so much, but even so...