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Received my three yesterday. Very nice. Solid. May be a few days before I can hook one up but I have a couple questions. I unscrewed the cap to see what the insides look like but it doesn't seem like it wants to come apart. The cap unscrews all the way but when I try to lift out the insides, it feels like something (like a spring) is holding everything in place. I gave it a decent tug but didn't want to break anything. Should the inside pieces come out (ie for cleaning, etc)?
Also, the flare threaded end does not have a built-in gasket like you would see on 1/4" flare quick connect fitting. Do these taps require a 1/4 flare gasket to make a good seal?

1/4" Nylon Flare Washer
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I wonder if that's common knowledge around homebrewers...


must be! i had the idea independently.....1/4" tube fits in a picnic tap spout perfectly, and shove it through a carboy bung, kinda just firm pressure when filling a bottle, vent a bit when the flow slows down...

got my flare taps! looks like they redesigned the inereds, and they don't drip, but it is still a plastic pin inside...still love them!
 
Should the inside pieces come out (ie for cleaning, etc)?


it should? i pulled mine out...but not the silicon plunger.. the whole point of the flare is for easy cleaning in my head. i'll try my tap that's live now and see.

yeah, it took a bit of coaxing to get the silicone part out but realativly easy...the piston just has to pop out the bottom of the stopper....

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edit: and it was just unscrewing it from the line....quick clean between kegs, keep the gnats away....
 
Also, the flare threaded end does not have a built-in gasket like you would see on 1/4" flare quick connect fitting. Do these taps require a 1/4 flare gasket to make a good seal?

Note that the Duotight Push-In Flare Fittings say they do not require a flare washer (which is what I am looking at using).
https://www.morebeer.com/products/duotight-pushin-fitting-8-mm-516-14-flare.html
Otherwise, it looks like you should add a flare washer to the order as well. Good info to know, since all my plastic picnic taps Ball Lock Quick Disconnects have the nylon washer built in.
https://www.morebeer.com/products/flare-fitting-washer.html
 
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Note that the Duotight Push-In Flare Fittings say they do not require a flare washer (which is what I am looking at using).
https://www.morebeer.com/products/duotight-pushin-fitting-8-mm-516-14-flare.html
Otherwise, it looks like you should add a flare washer to the order as well. Good info to know, since all my plastic picnic taps Ball Lock Quick Disconnects have the nylon washer built in.
https://www.morebeer.com/products/flare-fitting-washer.html


No need of the flare washers with the Duotights. I don't run them on mine.
 
I bought the flared ss taps last year when they were first available. I like them, look cool and if it dropped (after a few some friends do) it has not broken like the plastic ones. Now that they have mfd ones looks like I can replace the others. Dang I like this group!
 
it should? i pulled mine out...but not the silicon plunger.. the whole point of the flare is for easy cleaning in my head. i'll try my tap that's live now and see.

yeah, it took a bit of coaxing to get the silicone part out but realativly easy...the piston just has to pop out the bottom of the stopper....

Interesting. I unscrewed the cap and gave the top a firm but easy pull. The piston pulled right out like you said but it ripped the silicone plunger. That's no good. It needs to come apart for cleaning... I wonder if they'll send me another silicone part?
 
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Interesting. I unscrewed the cap and gave the top a firm but easy pull. The piston pulled right out like you said but it ripped the silicone plunger. That's no good. It needs to come apart for cleaning... I wonder if they'll send me another silicone part?


i pulled both mine apart, and i did notice a crack in the stopper, but it's working fine? that little lip on the stopper the piston goes in just needs to pull it up...and mine are working fine, even with a slight crack in the stopper?
 
i pulled both mine apart, and i did notice a crack in the stopper, but it's working fine? that little lip on the stopper the piston goes in just needs to pull it up...and mine are working fine, even with a slight crack in the stopper?
I put it back together and it seems to be working the plunger ok even with the tear. Hopefully the tear does not grow. If the piston needs to grab that lip to pull the plunger up, then if that tear gets bigger, I can see the piston pulling out of the plunger instead of lifting it. I guess we'll see...
 
If you need to replace some inner parts in future,you may contact Morebeer,then they will contact
the manufacturer for replacement parts.
 
I put it back together and it seems to be working the plunger ok even with the tear. Hopefully the tear does not grow. If the piston needs to grab that lip to pull the plunger up, then if that tear gets bigger, I can see the piston pulling out of the plunger instead of lifting it. I guess we'll see...


i've poured two kegs with the other one i popped out...still working good...
 
If you need to replace some inner parts in future,you may contact Morebeer,then they will contact
the manufacturer for replacement parts.
I emailed morebeer about the torn plunger and asked if I could purchase replacement internal parts for the tap. They said at this time they do not offer replacement parts for these taps - maybe in the future they might. However, without prompting on my part, they said they were shipping an entire new tap to replace the one with the torn plunger. I'd call that good customer service.
 
I have these and absolutely love them!

Small footprint, simple to clean, easy to disconnect/connect as needed, no dripping or mess. Only $20 too!

I actually started using these instead of my fancy intertap faucets. Its nice not having a line or faucet to clean!



That's neat! Might be nice for taking samples from my kegmenter so I don't have a whole tap and line in the fermentation fridge.
 
I have these and absolutely love them!

Small footprint, simple to clean, easy to disconnect/connect as needed, no dripping or mess. Only $20 too!

I actually started using these instead of my fancy intertap faucets. Its nice not having a line or faucet to clean!



Interesting! So... my more classic mini tap / faucet that sits on the post shoots nothing but foam (carbed to ~ 13 psi). I have to bleed the keg first down to nearly no pressure (just lift the PRV, not a huge deal but not ideal). I use the mini tap occasionally to take a sample of say an Imperial Stout. Does this device not need to do that?
 
Interesting! So... my more classic mini tap / faucet that sits on the post shoots nothing but foam (carbed to ~ 13 psi). I have to bleed the keg first down to nearly no pressure (just lift the PRV, not a huge deal but not ideal). I use the mini tap occasionally to take a sample of say an Imperial Stout. Does this device not need to do that?
Correct, no need to reduce pressure

Make sure to keep the tap cold though. I just store mine in the fridge with a carb cap. In between uses I screw the carb on to a PET bottle filled with star san & run the star san through it.

If the tap isn't cold you will get foam. Also make sure you turn the knob all the way until it clicks. If you don't open all the way you can get foam.

Make sure to not overtighten the anodized rod when screwing on to the black ball lock QD as this can pinch the O ring.

For beers < 12 PSI (keezer temp @ 35 degrees) I do not get much foam. For more highly carbonated beers you may gets some, but that doesn't bother me as I generally prefer slow pours
 
well one of my flare ended picnic taps just bit the dust....the plastic plunger inside snapped, :( i wonder if aluminum would be around the same price as plastic for the plunger?
 
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