Why don't U.S macrobrews taste like European?

[Robert65]

No, it varies. In many countries the American beer has to go by Bud, not Budweiser. In the USA, the Czech beer has to go by Budvar (made up from the first 3 letters of the name of the town, and the last 3 letters of the word for "brewery." Imagine the American product labeled "St. Lewery.") In some places like the UK, neither has exclusive rights and both are called Budweiser. Apparently those courts are fairly certain anyone who can fog a mirror will be able to spot the difference straight away.

 

[verboten]

1 - Adjuncts. They're basically tasteless and only add sugar which gets turned into alcohol. That's OK if most of your customer base is only looking to "get their buzz going". Their use is "verboten" in Germany but allowed (and common) in other European countries.

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[Brewbuzzard]

No, it varies. In many countries the American beer has to go by Bud, not Budweiser. In the USA, the Czech beer has to go by Budvar (made up from the first 3 letters of the name of the town, and the last 3 letters of the word for "brewery." Imagine the American product labeled "St. Lewery.") In some places like the UK, neither has exclusive rights and both are called Budweiser. Apparently those courts are fairly certain anyone who can fog a mirror will be able to spot the difference straight away.

That is good to hear. It would be a shame not to be able to use your own name in the country of origin. I've drink Budvar and it's a very nice beer. Unfortunately my daughter drinks Stlewery and lives there too. She calls my beer fufu beer.

 

[TheMadKing]

That is good to hear. It would be a shame not to be able to use your own name in the country of origin. I've drink Budvar and it's a very nice beer. Unfortunately my daughter drinks Stlewery and lives there too. She calls my beer fufu beer.

They say you can't choose your family

They're wrong

 

[Nate R]

We're going on a bit of a tanget here but whatever...
There is an ongoing legal battle between Budweiser Budvar and the AB conglomerate over the use of the name "Budweiser".
The results of the legal dispute vary depending on the jurisdiction.

One of the better tangents if you ask me...
It's these types of threads that keep me coming back...
People talking and sharing their love for beer- all beer. No hate, just experiences and love for Bier.
Now, look up Spike's Warranty... ugh.
Maybe this LODO side aint so bad?!?

Edit- man.. then i read a few more posts down to the 'locked' post...
I dunno. Maybe i am just to thin-skinned for this section??
But reading up on macro machines the scrub O2 from strike water... so cool! Who knew?!?

 

[TheMadKing]

One of the better tangents if you ask me...
It's these types of threads that keep me coming back...
People talking and sharing their love for beer- all beer. No hate, just experiences and love for Bier.
Now, look up Spike's Warranty... ugh.
Maybe this LODO side aint so bad?!?

Edit- man.. then i read a few more posts down to the 'locked' post...
I dunno. Maybe i am just to thin-skinned for this section??
But reading up on macro machines the scrub O2 from strike water... so cool! Who knew?!?

I'm actually investigating a fuel cell technology right now, that can be run in reverse and pull oxygen out of a container. It is cheap to make, can be fitted into a mason jar lid, and can reduce the PPM of oxygen to around 200 within 1 hour.

 

[TheMadKing]

As for the tangent - speaking as the OP, my original question was answered to my satisfaction, so as long as we are talking about something related to LODO and don't call down the wrath of the mods, I'm content to talk about whatever!

 

[Bilsch]

I'm actually investigating a fuel cell technology right now, that can be run in reverse and pull oxygen out of a container. It is cheap to make, can be fitted into a mason jar lid, and can reduce the PPM of oxygen to around 200 within 1 hour.

Maybe you meant to say 200ppb in an hour?
Yeast are even cheaper and will take the O2 to essentially zero in half that time.

 

[TheMadKing]

Maybe you meant to say 200ppb in an hour?
Yeast are even cheaper and will take the O2 to essentially zero in half that time.

That's 200ppm in gas not in liquid

Yeast don't work well in a dry hop vessel like a yeast brink or a sight glass

 

[Die_Beerery]

That's 200ppm in gas not in liquid

Yeast don't work well in a dry hop vessel like a yeast brink or a sight glass

200ppm is crazy high for cold side.

A slow purge from the bottom with the output going into water, will be much more efficient.

 

[TheMadKing]

200ppm is crazy high for cold side.

A slow purge from the bottom with the output going into water, will be much more efficient.

In the beer yes. That's 200ppm in a 1L volume of gas.. Dump that with dry hops into a 7gal fermenter and you've suddenly reduced your ppm by a factor of 26 to about 7ppm

And I also said within 1 hour, if you leave the device on longer the PPM can go down below 100.

Also assuming your CO2 is 99.9% pure (typical for most homebrewers) that means it's 0.1% air, which is 1000ppm, and 20% of that is oxygen which is 200 ppm anyway.

 

[Bilsch]

Is this gizmo going to be crazy expensive?

 

[TheMadKing]

Is this gizmo going to be crazy expensive?

According to the guy that I'm talking to, the manufacturing cost is about $15 - so I'm hoping not

 

[Bilsch]

According to the guy that I'm talking to, the manufacturing cost is about $15 - so I'm hoping not

Count me as interested.
Do you also need to provide the gizmo with hydrogen and connect it to a load while it's working?

 

[TheMadKing]

Count me as interested.
Do you also need to provide the gizmo with hydrogen and connect it to a load while it's working?

https://www.researchgate.net/public...enting_air_from_degrading_jar-stored_products
Here's a link to the concept

 

[Dustin_J]

https://www.researchgate.net/public...enting_air_from_degrading_jar-stored_products
Here's a link to the concept

This looks pretty darn cool - could be a great tool for hop storage as well as the author states that "Conversely the extractor can be designed to be a removable attachment to the lid, thereby allowing for its reuse with different jar lids.". If/when this comes to fruition, count me as interested as well.

 

[day_trippr]

All kinds of fancy interfacing, valving and seals needed for that. And if it doesn't hold a seal in the freezer it'd be all for naught.

If the inventors can get that device to hit a least an order of magnitude lower O2 content (so, 0.01%) at more than still conditions I'd like to have one to run my CO2 system through...

Cheers!

 

[Deadalus]

I'm actually investigating a fuel cell technology right now, that can be run in reverse and pull oxygen out of a container. It is cheap to make, can be fitted into a mason jar lid, and can reduce the PPM of oxygen to around 200 within 1 hour.

Can it power the flux capacitor in a DeLorean?

 

[TheMadKing]

Can it power the flux capacitor in a DeLorean?

Only partly, Mr Fusion is a hungry beast

 

[Deadalus]

Only partly, Mr Fusion is a hungry beast

Guess I'm still stuck then.