why are PID's so much more popular than PLC?

[joebob296]

(I went with Auber ones, but they are a piece of shat company to deal with, and i hope they go out of business, pieces of trash). Worst experience ever. Spend your money elsewhere. Miserable. Miserable. Miserable. But back to the point...

Just don't buy Auber. They suck.

100% agree. One of my PID'S was never delivered I verified with USPS that they never delivered it. I called Auberins and this was the response "You need to investigate your neighbors to see who stole you package." Yes, that is in quotes. Then they tried to sell me another one for full price and extra shipping for signature delivery only. Even after they verified with USPS that the first one I ordered was never delivered. Good thing I went though PayPal and got my money back.

Avoid Auberins like the black plague.

 

[schematix]

100% agree. One of my PID'S was never delivered I verified with USPS that they never delivered it. I called Auberins and this was the response "You need to investigate your neighbors to see who stole you package." Yes, that is in quotes. Then they tried to sell me another one for full price and extra shipping for signature delivery only. Even after they verified with USPS that the first one I ordered was never delivered. Good thing I went though PayPal and got my money back.

Avoid Auberins like the black plague.

Not as bad as my experience, but just another example of their shady business practices!

 

[ajdelange]

One of my PID'S was never delivered I verified with USPS that they never delivered it. I called Auberins and this was the response "You need to investigate your neighbors to see who stole you package."

Seems to me that if USPS admits that they had it but never delivered it that Auberins is blameless and that the PO is the party that is responsible for its loss.

 

[joebob296]

Seems to me that if USPS admits that they had it but never delivered it that Auberins is blameless and that the PO is the party that is responsible for its loss.

Well I tried to keep the story short. Auberins created a tracking number and label for it, when I never received my item I called the USPS and gave them the tracking number and verified my information. The USPS said the tracking number was for a different address then the one verified on my order from Auberins, and the status on the tracking number was in transit. The USPS would not give me the address that was printed on the label from Auberins for security/privacy reasons. I then contacted Auberins and they "verified" that both the address and tracking information was correct. Which is a 100% lie, because the USPS said the address on it was not mine. So the label was printed incorrectly, never changed from in transit status, never got delivered, Auberins refused to take responsibility, and blamed my neighbors for stealing it.

Mind you, in order to get my money back from PayPal, I had to get proof of all this. Which I still have.

 

[schematix]

Well I tried to keep the story short. Auberins created a tracking number and label for it, when I never received my item I called the USPS and gave them the tracking number and verified my information. The USPS said the tracking number was for a different address then the one verified on my order from Auberins, and the status on the tracking number was in transit. The USPS would not give me the address that was printed on the label from Auberins for security/privacy reasons. I then contacted Auberins and they "verified" that both the address and tracking information was correct. Which is a 100% lie, because the USPS said the address on it was not mine. So the label was printed incorrectly, never changed from in transit status, never got delivered, Auberins refused to take responsibility, and blamed my neighbors for stealing it.

Mind you, in order to get my money back from PayPal, I had to get proof of all this. Which I still have.

You'd think for a crap little PID controller they probably pay $8 for they would just bite the bullet and keep their customers happy. But they are a greedy company that treats their customers like thieves. It's so unfortunate the home brew community has made them a defacto supplier of electric brewery controls because they are really an awful company.

I really can't understate how bad of an experience i had with them. They really screwed up something bad and when i brought it to their attention they acted like i insulted them and said they would no longer communicate with me because they didn't feel i wasn't grateful enough for what they did (it was an enclosure with a few custom hole punches - almost all the locations were off and some were the wrong size). No joke - they wouldn't respond to me via e-mail and HUNG UP ON ME WHEN I CALLED THEM. I had to charge back nearly an $800 order to them in order to get them to even respond to me to resolve the issue. In the end it wasn't the resolution i wanted but i had so much time invested it wasn't practical to go another direction.

Auber is a BAD company. I hope others see this as a warning and take their business elsewhere.

 

[John53189]

The VFD will serve several purposes:



The main reason is that the pump motor is a 3-phase motor. The VFD accepts a single phase input (220V) and outputs 3-phase 220V to the motor.



I have an electric RIMS system with manual valves. I figure that I can fine tune the mash temperature by adjusting the speed of the recirculation pump along with the temperature controller for the heating element along with adjusting the manual valves.



I can also adjust the speed of the pump when cooling through the tube chiller and when performing a CIP.



Your correct in that I can throttle the manual valves to accomplish the same thing but since I acquired a free VFD I figure why not use it to adjust the speed as well.

Free, ok I would too. There is always an "oh ****, turn it down" factor to vfd pumps from my experience. Its a love/hate relationship we have...