White house beer

[emjay]

Kit instructions are always wrong. It's the law or something.

I have never used kits or their instructions, but there's only one company whose kit instructions I've consistently heard positive things about, and that's Northern Brewer

 

[bottlebomber]

I have never used kits or their instructions, but there's only one company whose kit instructions I've consistently heard positive things about, and that's Northern Brewer

Except for where it says that you should ferment all beers for 2 weeks before moving to a 4 week secondary, bottle, and then start drinking 1-2 weeks later other than that not too bad.

 

[emjay]

Except for where it says that you should ferment all beers for 2 weeks before moving to a 4 week secondary, bottle, and then start drinking 1-2 weeks later other than that not too bad.

Meh, I don't secondary but those instructions seem fine for most styles, if not a bit short on carbonation times.

 

[bottlebomber]

Meh, I don't secondary but those instructions seem fine for most styles, if not a bit short on carbonation times.

I suppose... I've actually started doing secondaries recently after years of brewing for certain styles in an attempt to get crystal clear bottle conditioned beer with very little sediment. I've been crashing the primary, transferring to a little gelatin, and crashing for another week or so. Results in very clean beer. It's not necessary but it is great for the old OCD.

 

[DaBills]

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OMG lol.

 

[DaBills]

It's not a law. Just an executive order.

LoLoL good one.

 

[emjay]

OMG lol.

LoLoL good one.

Sir, your balls must have descended THIS low, in order to post in the forum.

 

[DaBills]

Sir, your balls must have descended THIS low, in order to post in the forum.

LoL i also enojyed this one. Keep it up!

 

[RumRiverBrewer]

When I heard this, there was no way I could imagine the president toiling over a kettle of wort somewhere in the White House... This is obviously a PR stunt and if we're lucky, some true brewer will be there the next time he whips out a bottle of the WH brew to ask some real questions... Someone has to find out who actually brews this stuff.

 

[Crimsonwine]

This.

Obama is not a home brewer. He drinks beer. The only reason this is a story is because a lot of folks with more free time on their hands than sense, made it a story.

Oh yeah, there is nothing wrong with extract beer. Lets not eat our own. Extract makes great beer. However, as the leader of the free world, you would think that the Pentagon, or the Military Industrial Complex, could devise a a killer single tier, 20 gal, three vessle system.......

.... Oh sorry, Lonnie already did that.

Then it would be called the ...Brutus One

 

[DaBills]

When I heard this, there was no way I could imagine the president toiling over a kettle of wort somewhere in the White House... This is obviously a PR stunt and if we're lucky, some true brewer will be there the next time he whips out a bottle of the WH brew to ask some real questions... Someone has to find out who actually brews this stuff.

Hmm, watch the video in the original post, and definitely read before you post. Good 'ol american fun.

 

[RumRiverBrewer]

Thanks for the heads-up DaBills... I didn't realize the PR folks did a YouTube video, very well done. I missed the president in the video though, I was expecting to see him and michelle brewing their own beers.

 

[emjay]

When I heard this, there was no way I could imagine the president toiling over a kettle of wort somewhere in the White House... This is obviously a PR stunt and if we're lucky, some true brewer will be there the next time he whips out a bottle of the WH brew to ask some real questions... Someone has to find out who actually brews this stuff.

The White House cooks make it, and it isn't a secret. He originally bought them a homebrew kit and asked them to look into homebrewing a couple years back.

Of course the President isn't spending hours cleaning, sanitizing, brewing, cleaning, sanitizing, fermenting, cleaning, sanitizing, bottling, and cleaning every - or any - 5 gallon batch. And no reasonable person would think he does, or expect him to, while he's in office. Perhaps he'll take up the hobby himself when he's no longer in office in 2016 - though it's unlikely, there is more than merely a remote chance how - but until then, the White House cooks will keep brewing and learning and getting better, and hopefully continue it with the 45th president in 2016, and onward to become a White House tradition.

Unlike wine (and don't get me wrong, I love wine and make it as well), beer is truly the "people's" drink, and can be world-class with ingredients from even an average homebrew shop. "White House Wine" would have to be made from grapes grown at the White House for the concept to have any meaning - essentially, it's the growers that make the wine - and that's just not going to produce a truly great product in DC. But beer - while still benefiting from quality ingredients - relies on the skill and creativity of the brewer more than the geography and climate of where its ingredients are grown, and as such, it's more than possible for a true "White House Beer" to be world class, even good enough to share with the most important of foreign leaders and dignitaries.

They're obviously not there yet, but it's a definite possibility down the line!

 

[DaBills]

Thanks for the heads-up DaBills... I didn't realize the PR folks did a YouTube video, very well done. I missed the president in the video though, I was expecting to see him and michelle brewing their own beers.

No problem.

 

[bottlebomber]

Originally Posted by Yuri_Rage
This thread is about beer. If I have to babysit it one iota, it will get closed. If you post ANY political commentary in this technical forum, I will ban you for three days, no questions asked. Carry on.

 

[DaBills]

Originally Posted by Yuri_Rage
This thread is about beer. If I have to babysit it one iota, it will get closed. If you post ANY political commentary in this technical forum, I will ban you for three days, no questions asked. Carry on.

Yes. This. This thread has been great so far... The reason? No politics. Just beer.

 

[crazyworld]

Can I just ask, does anyone else find it ironic that they're brewing what looks to be an English style beer?

 

[govner1]

Basically who gives a d<>m!

 

[mb82]

Can I just ask, does anyone else find it ironic that they're brewing what looks to be an English style beer?

I noticed it. Not a big deal in my book, the English know how to make a good style of beer.

 

[Pappers_]

Can I just ask, does anyone else find it ironic that they're brewing what looks to be an English style beer?

Goose Island's flagship beer is Honkers Ale and they describe it as an ESB. Nothing wrong with a good American made English beer!

 

[Pappers_]

Twice, I've hosted parties or gatherings for non -brewers where we brewed a special batch together, around a theme or special occassion. This seems like a good opportunity to put out the invitation again. I think its cool that there is a White House beer and it seems to have drawn the attention of non brewers.

 

[Pappers_]

Just had a random thought - in less than a person 's lifetime, we've gone from Prohibition to a White House making handmade beer. That is just remarkable!

 

[TimpanogosSlim]

Just had a random thought - in less than a person 's lifetime, we've gone from Prohibition to a White House making handmade beer. That is just remarkable!

Historians claim that a majority of the congressmen who voted for the prohibition amendment were under the impression that it only restricted the sale and manufacture of hard liquors and would leave beer and wine out of it.

It was the Volstead Act which condemned the manufacture and sale of beer and wine. For some reason home winemaking was never criminalized.

I recommend the PBS miniseries on the subject. It turns out that the temperance movement wasn't in favor of prohibition, and both the temperance and prohibition movements were more concerned about all the rape and abuse of married women than about the booze itself. It was a different time. Hardly anybody with a Y chromosome could be convinced that such a thing as rape is possible within the bonds of marriage, for example. In the working class there was a lot of rampant drunkenness and associated mayhem when the drunks finally got home after drinking all night, and there was no law providing consequences for said mayhem.

That, and the majority of beer bars were owned and operated by breweries, with the effect that there were neighborhoods that were nothing but saloons.

In short, prohibition was the wrong solution to a number of very real problems they had at the time.

 

[dnl]

Hello,

I had an idea:
Could the WH work with kit seller to add reusable bottle labels to their WH beer kits that are similar to the official label or add another tangible item such as a glass. The 'deluxe' kit premium could be used to support a nonpartisan charity like childhood hunger, MS or cancer research, or something of the like. If you didn't want the extra or want to make your own version go for it, but I kind of like the idea of making a batch, adding some labels, and supporting a good cause.

 

[djfake]

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In short, prohibition was the wrong solution to a number of very real problems they had at the time.

And today.

 

[alestateyall]

Hello,
I had an idea:
... The 'deluxe' kit premium could be used to support a nonpartisan charity like childhood hunger, MS or cancer research...

Do you mean childhood hunger, MS as in Mississippi, or cancer research?

I vote for Mississippi. We need the money to help fight for home brew legalization.

 

[Yooper]

Twice, I've hosted parties or gatherings for non -brewers where we brewed a special batch together, around a theme or special occassion. This seems like a good opportunity to put out the invitation again.

Let me know what time to be there, and what to bring....................

 

[McGarnigle]

Historians claim that a majority of the congressmen who voted for the prohibition amendment were under the impression that it only restricted the sale and manufacture of hard liquors and would leave beer and wine out of it.

It was the Volstead Act which condemned the manufacture and sale of beer and wine. For some reason home winemaking was never criminalized.

I recommend the PBS miniseries on the subject. It turns out that the temperance movement wasn't in favor of prohibition, and both the temperance and prohibition movements were more concerned about all the rape and abuse of married women than about the booze itself. It was a different time. Hardly anybody with a Y chromosome could be convinced that such a thing as rape is possible within the bonds of marriage, for example. In the working class there was a lot of rampant drunkenness and associated mayhem when the drunks finally got home after drinking all night, and there was no law providing consequences for said mayhem.

That, and the majority of beer bars were owned and operated by breweries, with the effect that there were neighborhoods that were nothing but saloons.

In short, prohibition was the wrong solution to a number of very real problems they had at the time.

I'd recommend that anyone read Daniel Okrent's "Last Call" for the full story (the PBS doc was partly based on it). So much of it had to do with how to manage political coalitions. The 'drys' included everything from progressive urban socialist reformers to the KKK (concerned about drunken blacks and immigrants). It was a tightly defined single issue cause that attracted strange bedfellows.

On the other side, the breweries and distilleries were throwing each other under the bus. The breweries were OK with making booze illegal, just not beer.

 

[chessking]

The 'deluxe' kit premium could be used to support a nonpartisan charity like childhood hunger, MS or cancer research, or something of the like.

And orange slices for all the kiddies.

 

[jeffdill]

Did anyone convert these to a full boil extract recipe? I've never done that, I'm not sure how the hop additions change.