I've had them both. All Day is my daily drinker. Even Keel is good and so is Mango Even Keel (for a change). I love Ballast Point. I've had habanero Sculpin in the tasting room last time I was in San Diego. Awesome beer! I've tried to develop a session IPA for a house beer. Brewed 3.2% several times but I lost body. Tried to get it back by using English malts and/or German. I keep trying to duplicate the grassy from Founder's. Not enough luck yet. Gonna keep working on it but I may have use more malt and raise abv. Any ideas about the DH on Founder's?