Where's my hops?

[Kod_x]

I had a terrible time trying to find hops to buy from any online retailer. I have ordered a few recipes from different online shops and have been substituted hops from 2 of the "big" shops.

I went into a LHBS in Phoenix and walked out the door with 8 different types of hops and some 2 row. (2.89 an ounce for you record keepers. )

Shrug. The homebrew market right now, is, well.. interesting.

 

[Jesse17]

I've decided to hold off on brewing this. I'm going to order the hops I should have gotten, from somewhere eles, probably AHB.

Of course, that will require paying their flat shipping, which I love, but can't pass up ordering more stuff at the same time because of it. So, I may wait until I get some bills paid before I order it.

Anyone know what kind of recipes I should be looking for, to use this Summit?

 

[brewt00l]

Anyone know what kind of recipes I should be looking for, to use this Summit?

APA, PA, IPA...

 

[Beerrific]

I've decided to hold off on brewing this. I'm going to order the hops I should have gotten, from somewhere eles, probably AHB.

Of course, that will require paying their flat shipping, which I love, but can't pass up ordering more stuff at the same time because of it. So, I may wait until I get some bills paid before I order it.

Anyone know what kind of recipes I should be looking for, to use this Summit?

I find this whole thing kind of ridiculous. You should not have to shop elsewhere to complete a kit from them. Period.

Seeing how the hops for this clone are pretty standard and they list the ingredients that you are buying when you purchased this clone and they sent you a hop that is not even close and they have the correct hops they should fix this. IMO, you are well within your rights to continue to complain, maybe even take it up with a manager or the owner.

You might also refer them to this thread. I was contemplating buying some kits from them that had hops I wanted and the price was not ridiculous. Now that I see they substitute hops without even thinking about it, I will not. In fact, this might persuade me from buying from them again.

 

[Jesse17]

This what's suppose to be in the NB kit:
0.50 lbs. Victory Malt
0.50 lbs. Briess Caramel 60
1 lb. Pilsen DME (boil for 60 min.)
6 lbs. Munich Malt Syrup (boil for 15 min.)
1 oz. Willamette (60 min)
1 oz. Mt. Hood (15 min)
Wyeast #1792 Fat Tire Ale Yeast

I have .5 oz. of Hersbrucker left from another kit. Mt. Hood and Hersbrucker are listed as substitutions for each other (in fact the Hersbrucker I have is left over from an AHB Fat Tire kit)

So what I am thinking is I'll use the .5 oz. of Summit (60 min) that NB sent for the bittering hops, and add the .5 oz. Hersbrucker that I already have to replace the 1 oz. of Mt. Hood.

Since the Summit will replace the bittering, and I only have .5 oz of Hersbrucker I was thinking that I should add it at 5 min. or even dry hop it. What would y'all recommend?

 

[Jesse17]

I know you ordered this to use the FT yeast with it...if I were you i'd stash that yeast in the fridge, and maybe we can do a trade of some sorts...I have the hops you're looking for if you wan't to brew a "real" fat tire clone. You could, in turn, send me some yeast samples that I could add to my bank under a sealed, sterile solution of maltose.

I ordered the kit with the Fat Tire yeast, and an extra pack of yeast just for propagating. Now I just need to find some glycerin <SP>, jars, and maybe a stir plate before I use it.

Thanks for the offer though. I'd be glad to do some trading, once I have some brews worth trading.

 

[Seabee John]

Not to pile on... But I live in St. Paul where NB is located. Ive been in there several times and each time I go, I leave asking myself WHY I decided to go to NB when Midwest is another 15 minutes down the road. Their customer service sucks, their prices are predictably higher than Midwest, and I've always been treated poorly (ignored) when I've been in there. I shop at midwest and my experience there has been nothing but pleasant. Midwest still has plenty of hops and they always do the best they can to fix me up with the next best thing if they don't have a particular type. I have never been shorted in amounts either. It sounds like NB got caught with their pants down when it came to their hops contract. Seen their hops prices ??? $6.00+ an oz??? WTF

Sorry for the rant... but they pissed me off.

 

[Chriso]

I'm a big fan of Midwest. I've never even ordered from NB directly, only on a split order with a friend. Austin isn't bad, but I just like Midwest better for some reason. And Midwest's got the cheapest rates (shipped) on WL yeast. (I'm a WL convert, Wyeast can KMA), and most often can ship to me the fastest too!

I just wish I lived within driving distance.....

 

[BierMuncher]

I'm a big fan of Midwest...

Midwest has never even considered subbing or dropping something from my order without calling me on my cell. Even if it was as simple as pellets instead of whole hops, they call first to make sure.

The one time they called and couldn't reach me...they upgraded the substitute (Glacier plugs since they were out of whole).

 

[Jesse17]

This what's suppose to be in the NB kit:
0.50 lbs. Victory Malt
0.50 lbs. Briess Caramel 60
1 lb. Pilsen DME (boil for 60 min.)
6 lbs. Munich Malt Syrup (boil for 15 min.)
1 oz. Willamette (60 min)
1 oz. Mt. Hood (15 min)
Wyeast #1792 Fat Tire Ale Yeast

I have .5 oz. of Hersbrucker left from another kit. Mt. Hood and Hersbrucker are listed as substitutions for each other (in fact the Hersbrucker I have is left over from an AHB Fat Tire kit)

So what I am thinking is I'll use the .5 oz. of Summit (60 min) that NB sent for the bittering hops, and add the .5 oz. Hersbrucker that I already have to replace the 1 oz. of Mt. Hood.

Since the Summit will replace the bittering, and I only have .5 oz of Hersbrucker I was thinking that I should add it at 5 min. or even dry hop it. What would y'all recommend?

I'll have to check out Midwest next time. Any comments on the above hop schedule?

 

[bradsul]

The 15 minute addition is leaning more towards flavour than aroma, I would keep it rather than moving to 5 minutes.

 

[Seabee John]

I'll have to check out Midwest next time. Any comments on the above hop schedule?

You can get williamette (leaf) at Midwest right now. they have a bunch of other stuff too. You might just be able to get what you need (at leased an actual recommended sub)

 

[McCall St. Brewer]

Wow. I'm going to rethink giving any more orders to NB.

I've always been very impressed with the mail order service I've gotten from them, but ever since the news broke on the hops shortage, I've started to wonder about them. I've noticed that they seem to be really hurting in that department for awhile now.