When to complain?

[TheMan]

Some of us have no alternative than to order yeast through the mail. When I do, I expect the yeast to be less than 2 months old.

The name calling and condescending replies are unnecessary and unacceptable.

If being called an "odd duck" from some random guy on the internet is going to ruffle your feathers then you fellas really need to RDWHAHB.

I don't know anyone that would take that as name calling or even an insult.

 

[Pappers_]

Name calling now? I'm done with this thread. Thanks for all the help.

"0dd duck" doesn't really seem offensive to me. In fact, I hope people will start referring to me as Odd Duck.

 

[MalFet]

I hereby retract my previous name-calling. Let it be known that nealperkins is a perfectly normal duck. All offense to ducks and non-ducks is regretted. Pappers has always been and remains an odd duck.

I understand that some people have to buy over the internet, and there are two equally adequate solutions to this problem:
a) call the store and ask about their stock.
b) expect some variability in age and plan starters accordingly.

If two months seems unrealistically old, that's a complaint for Chris White or Greg Doss.

 

[TheMan]

I hereby retract my previous name-calling. Let it be known that nealperkins is a perfectly normal duck. All offense to ducks and non-ducks is regretted. Pappers has always been and remains an odd duck.

Many thanks from this guy

 

[charlesmartin]

ozone disappearing in the sky, bud man asking us why ask why
if I could find my magazine this bug would die
I complain
China boy standing up to a tank, southern boy living in the house of yanks
if I can't seem to get my motorbike to crank
I complain.

small kid begging for a crumb of bread, next kid bloated lying nearly dead
I wonder what to take for my aching head
I complain
lots of people crying for a little rain, whole nation learning how to live with pain
I don't know how I'm gonna clean this little stain
I complain.

black man singing Mississippi blues, Africa starves a little baby drools
I'm trying to figure out all the basketball rules
I complain
Mr. Rush Limbaugh giving me the facts, treetops falling and the newsman yaks
I'm thinking about Carter and how I'm gonna be taxed.

complain so much easier.


the problem with typed text is how we might read a certain attitude into the words that was never there. then again it might be. either way, i really like this song by king's x. i really like beer, and yeast are fun pets...and wood ducks are some of the coolest looking ducks around.

i hope the yeast in the op turn out to make some of the best beer in nealperkins has ever made.

 

[Seven]

Wouldn't you need more than a couple of days to step up to a 4L starter from one vial of yeast?

it would be fermented out on my stirplate in 24 hrs...

So since the OP has abandoned this thread I'm going to ask a question that I wanted to ask but didn't because I didn't want to get off topic.

Are you saying you can pitch 1 vial of White Labs yeast or 1 Wyeast smack pack into 4L of starter wort and since you're using a stir plate it will "ferment out" in 24 hours? What is the approximate ending yeast cell count when you do this?

I'm curious because I thought you needed to step up incrementally to 4L starters using progressively larger starters until you reached 4L. If you're saying you can skip all of these smaller steps and go straight to 4L starters then I must have misunderstood yeast starters and I'm getting a stir plate!

 

[bja]

So since the OP has abandoned this thread I'm going to ask a question that I wanted to ask but didn't because I didn't want to get off topic.

Are you saying you can pitch 1 vial of White Labs yeast or 1 Wyeast smack pack into 4L of starter wort and since you're using a stir plate it will "ferment out" in 24 hours? What is the approximate ending yeast cell count when you do this?

I'm curious because I thought you needed to step up incrementally to 4L starters using progressively larger starters until you reached 4L. If you're saying you can skip all of these smaller steps and go straight to 4L starters then I must have misunderstood yeast starters and I'm getting a stir plate!

It might take longer than 24 hours (maybe 48) but you cann go straight to 4L.

 

[Homercidal]

Damn you unknown major retailer! Where is your 100% viable yeast?? How dare you sell me yeast not made yesterday!

 

[Germelli1]

Damn you unknown major retailer! Where is your 100% viable yeast?? How dare you sell me yeast not made yesterday!

agreed.

 

[Nateo]

If I have to buy yeast via mail order, I go with dry yeast. I assume being dried out makes it more temp stable, but I don't know that for a fact. Has anyone heard anything about that?

I do know dried yeasts compensate for diminished viability from drying by having higher cells counts than liquid yeasts.