I probably brewed 3 batches all pre-hopped extract, then a year of extract with grains before going all grain with a ZapPap setup. I kept thinking there had to be a more complicated way to brew(chronic severe ADHD). Why spend 3 hours brewing when I can make it take 7-8 hours? But after a few batches I enjoyed the tighter control over what I was brewing and I've not used extract since around 1995. I do miss having a constant supply of those 1 gallon plastic buckets, they were very handy for lots of things.