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daksin

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Title says it all: what's beer style you love, but haven't quite made the perfect example of yet? What's holding you back?

I've made about a hundred ESBs and honestly I don't think I've liked one as much as the first extract batch I did, which was hardly what you'd call authentic.
 
American Amber. Tried 2 times and something went wrong on both attempts..............I guess its my unicorn.
 
Hefeweizen. Easy to make a good one, very hard to make a great one.

Smakudwn - Have you tried Denny Conn's Amber? Easily the best one I ever made. I made it with Caravienne instead of Carared and it was still extremely awesome.
 
Hefeweizen. Easy to make a good one, very hard to make a great one.

Smakudwn - Have you tried Denny Conn's Amber? Easily the best one I ever made. I made it with Caravienne instead of Carared and it was still extremely awesome.


No is that in the recipe section?
 
Relative noob here, but the saison and Irish Red I did were not as good as I had hoped. The red has a thinness to it, and the saison a fusel/metallic quality. I really want to improve on those.
 
Saison. Every time I make one, I've reformulated the recipe completely because I wasn't happy with the previous version. And of course it doesn't help that the only saison yeast that I really, really like is Dupont.
 
Saison. I've tried a couple times, and they just end up coming out as fizzy junk.

Also, anything with coriander... but that might have more to do with my personal tastes than a flaw in the styles.
 
What yeasts have you been using? I haven't had a perfect saison yet either, but I'm really digging the smells coming off my latest one.
 
Up until about 2 or 3 kegs ago, it would've been a Helles. I worked a few different recipes, but couldn't get it right. I now have a one that's amazing that I'm making consistently.
 
I have an Imperial IPA I have been tweaking slowly for the last year, still not quite where I want it but getting closer.
 
Hefeweizen. Easy to make a good one, very hard to make a great one.

Smakudwn - Have you tried Denny Conn's Amber? Easily the best one I ever made. I made it with Caravienne instead of Carared and it was still extremely awesome.

I agree... everyone "can make one" but to do a great one is tough. I think its because of the temperature, gravity, and pitch rate of the yeast.
 
I think saison is pretty easy but we all have our beer. I can brew a great saison but have failed on a few belgian dark strong ales.
 
Tried a Witbier twice now. First was.blah, second is better, but still not quite what I wanted. Used WY3944 if I recall, and my grain crush wasn't ideal, but still thought it would end up more like blue moon than it did (SWMBO likes Blue Moon).
 
every style I like, I'm wicked awesome at. I don't want to sound like I got a swelled head, but I do.



(I understand the irony considering my sig. I'm also a big smart mouth.)
 
Yea I've got the hops and grain bases covered. I've used burton salt but then again, I don't know what's in my well water already. I keep a stash of dry whitbread (s-04) I'll check out Innkeeper and grab some 1469 next time I feel froggy
 
mine would probably be bock.... I have not brewed a lot of them, but the ones I have done ended up way too sweet.

My bock is one of my favorite recipes and its hybrid too, not a lager.

http://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/bockbegock-hybrid

It's based on a recipe from Everything Homebrewing by Drew Beechum.

On the problem of being too sweet, I would suggest yeast energizer that usually gives a few more gravity points
 
Yea I've got the hops and grain bases covered. I've used burton salt but then again, I don't know what's in my well water already. I keep a stash of dry whitbread (s-04) I'll check out Innkeeper and grab some 1469 next time I feel froggy

I would not use burton salt.... especially if you don't know what you are starting with in the first place. I use the following water numbers on my british bitter.
Calcium - 90
Sulfate - 160
Chloride - 45
Bicarbonate - 74
Magnesium and sodium - pretty low

I use Bru'n water and scale back the "pale ale" profile.

I throw a half pound of wheat in mine and a half pound corn sugar instead of a full pound. I also throw a bit extra EKG in mine and get IBU's at about 40. Golden Promise or Maris Otter Base malt.
 
Thanks braufessor, this is good motivation to get my water tested to see what's there. I think I am long overdue since I started AG brewing two years ago. I may just start with distilled water and treat it from scratch.
 
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