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Troegs Perpetual Darkness. Barleywine. Pretty sure this is a brewery only. We got these there last year (2023) This is a real pretty color that doesn’t show well in the photo.

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It’s that time of year I give myself the annual test – Just checking my general tolerance for wheat beers. I’m not talking Gluten or any of that digestive stuff, nope. I’m talking about my general distaste of phenolic flavors. Wheat beers, Hefe-Weizens, Weizens, Weissbier, Weiss Bier, White Beer and the whole lot of spicy, “clove-tasting” banana-ester tasting brews – Generally these become dumpers at the Beermeister32 Labs. Woof. How do all you Guys and Gals handle it when there’s really good brews like Pilsners and Oktoberfests just one tap handle away?

OK, maybe I’m being unduly critical. I mean these have really taken over, I read somewhere that they are now #2 in Germany behind Pilsners. This shameful admission I cannot fully understand. But, Beermeister32 is open to changing my mind, and this week I’m going to be running some of the top German Wheat beers through my annual review.

Paulaner is one heck of a great brewer, their Pilsner is one of my fav’s. How about this one? Paulaner Hefe-Weizen, Munich Wheat Beer. Why not start with Germany’s #1 Hefe-Weizen, 5.5% ABV and really restrained hopping as you would expect in a beer like this. I think I have it figured out, the clove-banana thing is also significantly restrained in this beer. Cloudy like most wheat beers, it needs to be said these are Ales, not Lagers. Possibly, they have achieved the #1 status, by rolling back the phenolics a bit to make a smoother drinking beer.

Another thing, like a lot of smoked beers I’ve had, characteristic and signature “Clove” phenolic flavors fade a bit as your taste buds adapt and de-sensitize from the phenolic onslaught. This beer gets better the further you get into the pint. I’m not giving up my Pilsner any time soon, but there’s a lot to love for the right people with this Hefe-Weizen. Hats off to Paulaner, it’s drinkable! I’m glad I started off with theirs. Prost!

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Hefes or Wits are decent summertime beers. The phenolic flavor in those to me is different from the kind that is present in infected beers or the Belgians or Saisons or Farmhouse ales. Wheats as you describe are like bananna and clove and fermentation temp has alot to do with controlling those. Infected beers and Belgians and that lot taste more like chewing on a band aid. I like wheats during the hot weather but its something I want to drink 1 or 2 of. The others are beers I want to drink zero of.
 
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This HB WCIPA is with tropical oil. The citrus was better.

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I bought some Spectrum (Bru-1), recently that I plan to use probably in a pale ale in the spring. I'm leaning towards adding it near the end of fermentation as tracked with my Pill. But I've got time to change my mind on that. :D
 
I bought some Spectrum (Bru-1), recently that I plan to use probably in a pale ale in the spring. I'm leaning towards adding it near the end of fermentation as tracked with my Pill. But I've got time to change my mind on that. :D
I've only used hop oil post kegging with good success. Try it and see how it works for you?
 
I remember my first German Hefe-Weizen was in this bar restauraunt up in Santa Barbara. I’d had Widmer Hefe-Weizen, which is an entirely different brew and an entirely different and drinkable Altbier yeast profile – different than the German offerings which used specific Hefe-Weizen yeast. In fact, it was the first time I’d seen the server invert the bottle into the entire Hefe-Weizen glass and pull it upward, dumping all the brew into the glass with enough turbulence to mix all the haze, yeast and gunk in the bottle. Wheat beers like this are usually murky and cloudy with yeast, that’s part of the style. I wasn’t ready for that, all my beers up to that point had been carefully poured down the insides as to not upset any dregs in the bottle. I nearly smacked her for doing that!

OK, Ok, I felt like it, but would have never done that - Luckily Beermeister32 is a restrained sort of fellow. I just wasn’t ready for what I felt was such mishandling of my beer! Later on, I was informed that they are actually trained to do that to get all that yeast into suspension. Joy!

Well onto Hofbrau Hefe-Weizen. To all you phenol-loving beer freaks, I suppose you’ll like this. Yesterday’s Paulaner actually turned out to be a fine beer, I’m still up in the air on this one however. Hofbrauhaus releases this at 5.1% ABV. Unsuspecting and beer-curious folks like myself then buy this in the store, bring it home and attempt to drink it. Some love it.

I’m just not a fan of this clove thing. Very phenolic, reminds me of my first chlorophenol-damaged failure phenolic beer brews. Like the Paulaner, the phenolic flavor diminishes as you work your way to the bottom which sadly seems to never arrive. Eck.

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I remember my first German Hefe-Weizen was in this bar restauraunt up in Santa Barbara. I’d had Witmer Hefe-Weizen, which is an entirely different brew and an entirely different and drinkable Altbier yeast profile – different than the German offerings which used specific Hefe-Weizen yeast. In fact, it was the first time I’d seen the server invert the bottle into the entire Hefe-Weizen glass and pull it upward, dumping all the brew into the glass with enough turbulence to mix all the haze, yeast and gunk in the bottle. Wheat beers like this are usually murky and cloudy with yeast, that’s part of the style. I wasn’t ready for that, all my beers up to that point had been carefully poured down the insides as to not upset any dregs in the bottle. I nearly smacked her for doing that!

OK, Ok, I felt like it, but would have never done that - Luckily Beermeister32 is a restrained sort of fellow. I just wasn’t ready for what I felt was such mishandling of my beer! Later on, I was informed that they are actually trained to do that to get all that yeast into suspension. Joy!

Well onto Hofbrau Hefe-Weizen. To all you phenol-loving beer freaks, I suppose you’ll like this. Yesterday’s Paulaner actually turned out to be a fine beer, I’m still up in the air on this one however. Hofbrauhaus releases this at 5.1% ABV. Unsuspecting and beer-curious folks like myself then buy this in the store, bring it home and attempt to drink it. Some love it.

I’m just not a fan of this clove thing. Very phenolic, reminds me of my first chlorophenol-damaged failure phenolic beer brews. Like the Paulaner, the phenolic flavor diminishes as you work your way to the bottom which sadly seems to never arrive. Eck.

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I’m on the side who much prefers the clove as opposed to the banana… I really dislike bananas.
 
fwiw...I run (3) 27" monitors and still many pics of pours you folks post only fit half the glass on the screen at a time. Loses a lot wrt impact when you have to scroll to see the whole glass.

Consider grabbing a right side corner and dragging it left until the pic fits in your screen. Then there's a chance it'll fit in mine :cool:
Like so:

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The picture is still clickable for the full size sprawling image, so nothing is lost in the offing...

Cheers! :mug:
 
Homebrewed Belgian Quad/Westvleteren-ish (bairds MO, Swaen pilsner, CSI d-180, brown sugar, ekg @ 60 for 33 ibu)

Anyways, this is my 4th bottle sampled... When slightly warm, it tastes exactly like St Bernardus abt 12, when cooler, it tastes a lot less fruity (and I prefer my homebrew COLD to St Bernadus at equally cold temps). The foam disappears too quick, however, gonna add 2% torrified wheat next time.

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The day has finally come. I've retired my snow shovel. Shouldve been done years ago but I'm an old stubborn goat. Brother gave me a little snowblower
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Now for errands and Spyglasses 2nd anniversary new location for brunch
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Laminar Flow with Yuzu lemon. Fantastic. They always do good special editions. Never over the top.

Maple Blueberry Domain Wall. I'm not usually a fan of fruited ipas. Yup. Nice maple aroma. Breakfast.... Just a sip. Still enjoying the Laminar. It's ok but...I'm sure people that like fruited would like it. To each their own

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EDIT: back to the fruited. There's a certain category where my taste buds go berserk trying to figure out what's going on. Fun. This is one of them. It has everything it's described. Plus ipa'y. I'm not sure if I'd run to have another one but fun to tweak the tastebuds


Mmmhm smell of sauerkraut and sausages from below. Hold on.....

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It’s that time of year I give myself the annual test – Just checking my general tolerance for wheat beers. I’m not talking Gluten or any of that digestive stuff, nope. I’m talking about my general distaste of phenolic flavors. Wheat beers, Hefe-Weizens, Weizens, Weissbier, Weiss Bier, White Beer and the whole lot of spicy, “clove-tasting” banana-ester tasting brews – Generally these become dumpers at the Beermeister32 Labs. Woof. How do all you Guys and Gals handle it when there’s really good brews like Pilsners and Oktoberfests just one tap handle away?

OK, maybe I’m being unduly critical. I mean these have really taken over, I read somewhere that they are now #2 in Germany behind Pilsners. This shameful admission I cannot fully understand. But, Beermeister32 is open to changing my mind, and this week I’m going to be running some of the top German Wheat beers through my annual review.

Paulaner is one heck of a great brewer, their Pilsner is one of my fav’s. How about this one? Paulaner Hefe-Weizen, Munich Wheat Beer. Why not start with Germany’s #1 Hefe-Weizen, 5.5% ABV and really restrained hopping as you would expect in a beer like this. I think I have it figured out, the clove-banana thing is also significantly restrained in this beer. Cloudy like most wheat beers, it needs to be said these are Ales, not Lagers. Possibly, they have achieved the #1 status, by rolling back the phenolics a bit to make a smoother drinking beer.

Another thing, like a lot of smoked beers I’ve had, characteristic and signature “Clove” phenolic flavors fade a bit as your taste buds adapt and de-sensitize from the phenolic onslaught. This beer gets better the further you get into the pint. I’m not giving up my Pilsner any time soon, but there’s a lot to love for the right people with this Hefe-Weizen. Hats off to Paulaner, it’s drinkable! I’m glad I started off with theirs. Prost!

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Wow! I have souvenir labels off all these from my time in Germany!
 

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