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some of my sour lemon while I finish up homework. Planning on running over to the newest brewery around. Special opening today and it's walking distance from my house. That will be dangerous if they're any good.
 
My It's A Trapp! Belgian Style Pale Ale.

And enjoying these.


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Weathe really was Awesome today despite what the weather man said.

Got the yard ready for the year. Now I'm drinking away the pain
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Billy-Klubb said:
I did primary with a 2000mL starter of Roselare, a proper secondary with a very active 2000mL starter of Brett B. it never formed a decent pellicle. I brewed it 1-8-12. it was one of my last extract batches. it's been in secondary since 9-2-12. kept it warmish over the last year 68-72F. my wife says it's pretty sour, but all I can taste is the sweetish aftertaste.

Aren't you not supposed to make a starter for roselaire? From what I remember reading doing so can throw the proportions of bugs vs sacc out of whack
 
mcbaumannerb said:
sfrisby - THANK YOU!! Cigar City's Marshal Zhukov's RIS. This is awesome!

Is that a 2012? I thought that comes out in May. You got hooked up, if it's a 2012, you really got hooked up!
What did you think about it?
 
Aren't you not supposed to make a starter for roselaire? From what I remember reading doing so can throw the proportions of bugs vs sacc out of whack

Yep. Because sacc yeast reproduces and ferments a lot quicker than most bugs, making a starter with it increases the sacc cells disproportionately high, which, especially when combined with the faster fermentation of sacc yeast, means it will get at almost all of the sugars before the bugs can. It makes me prefer to use separate cultures rather than blends, or at least (a) fresh and brand new vial(s) or smack-pack(s).

The only time I'd really recommend using blends that you've fermented with before (whether it's a commercial blend or one you put together yourself) is when it's impregnated in wood, particularly oak, and especially barrels, rather than pitching from some form of liquid slurry.
 
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My tester bottle of apfelwein that I bottled 12/12. The first time (made 3 other batches) I actually used the appropriate yeast, Montrachet. The other times I was using left over "kit beer" yeast (muntons, muntons gold). Wow, what a difference!
 
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How is that beer? It's one I've been looking at, but not available people here other than as an entire case (or few rare beer bars that may have ordered entire cases). Which is a pretty big risk to take, especially since it'll be easier to find people to split it with if it's great, but much more difficult if it's not - ¡meaning that the worse it is, the more it would cost me! :eek:
 
Yep. Because sacc yeast reproduces and ferments a lot quicker than most bugs, making a starter with it increases the sacc cells disproportionately high, which, especially when combined with the faster fermentation of sacc yeast, means it will get at almost all of the sugars before the bugs can. It makes me prefer to use separate cultures rather than blends, or at least (a) fresh and brand new vial(s) or smack-pack(s).

The only time I'd really recommend using blends that you've fermented with before (whether it's a commercial blend or one you put together yourself) is when it's impregnated in wood, particularly oak, and especially barrels, rather than pitching from some form of liquid slurry.

good to know! I figured the brett b. I added when I added fresh wort would have taken off though. I'm gonna let it sit for a few more months & check grav. only dropped .002 since I last check a few months ago. then gonna bottle, analyze my strategy & attack.
 
How is that beer? It's one I've been looking at, but not available people here other than as an entire case (or few rare beer bars that may have ordered entire cases). Which is a pretty big risk to take, especially since it'll be easier to find people to split it with if it's great, but much more difficult if it's not - ¡meaning that the worse it is, the more it would cost me! :eek:

It's a good beer. I guess it's a BDSA. If I had the extra money, it would be great to get a case. It ages very well and even drinking only 2 or 3 a year, it will still be in it's prime when you finish the case.

good to know! I figured the brett b. I added when I added fresh wort would have taken off though. I'm gonna let it sit for a few more months & check grav. only dropped .002 since I last check a few months ago. then gonna bottle, analyze my strategy & attack.

If you want more sour and more attenuation, try pitching some Jolly Pumpkin dregs. Good excuse to sit down and drink a couple JPs in one session.
 
It's a good beer. I guess it's a BDSA. If I had the extra money, it would be great to get a case. It ages very well and even drinking only 2 or 3 a year, it will still be in it's prime when you finish the case.



If you want more sour and more attenuation, try pitching some Jolly Pumpkin dregs. Good excuse to sit down and drink a couple JPs in one session.

I can not & will not argue with your logic!:rockin:
 
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