Weizenbock (or is it a Dunkelweizen?)

[Rhoobarb]

Okay, I've already looked at various threads, including the Chariman's lengthy Dunkelweizen thread and I'm still not sure if what I have here is a Weizenbock or a Dunkelweizen recipe. I looked at several Weizenbock recipes and Daniel's DGB book and this is what I'm planning to brew this Monday. I'm calling it an American Weizenbock b/c I really want some kind of Weizenbock. Maybe I'll search through Noonan's lager book tonight.

Anyhow, the recipe is below. I'm reusing a previous yeast slurry, hence the yeast selection. I'm looking for any and all suggestions/comments.

BTW, I'll be using some of the Hallertauer hops I got from Monster Mash!

Weezie Jefferson American Weizenbock
A ProMash Brewing Session Report
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BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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15-C German Wheat and Rye Beer, Weizenbock
Min OG: 1.064 Max OG: 1.096
Min IBU: 15 Max IBU: 30
Min Clr: 12 Max Clr: 25 Color in SRM, Lovibond
Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 13.31
Anticipated OG: 1.072 Plato: 17.52
Anticipated SRM: 15.3
Anticipated IBU: 27.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes
Actual OG: 1.072 Plato: 17.51
Actual FG: 1.012 Plato: 3.07
Alc by Weight: 6.21 by Volume: 7.94 From Measured Gravities.
ADF: 82.5 RDF 68.7 Apparent & Real Degree of Fermentation.
Actual Mash System Efficiency: 75 %
Anticipated Points From Mash: 72.06
Actual Points From Mash: 72.00

Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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37.6 5.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
37.6 5.00 lbs. Wheat Malt America 1.038 2
7.5 1.00 lbs. CaraMunich 60 France 1.034 60
7.5 1.00 lbs. Munich Malt Germany 1.037 10
7.5 1.00 lbs. Rye Malt America 1.030 4
1.9 0.25 lbs. Special B Malt Belgian 1.030 120
0.5 0.06 lbs. Chocolate Malt Belgium 1.030 425
Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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0.75 oz. Hallertauer Tradition Pellet 6.00 20.0 60 min.
0.50 oz. Hallertauer Tradition Pellet 6.00 6.8 30 min.
0.25 oz. Hallertauer Tradition Pellet 6.00 1.1 5 min.
1.00 oz. Czech Saaz Whole 3.40 0.0 Dry Hop

Extras
Amount Name Type Time
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1.00 Tsp Irish Moss Fining 15 Min.(boil)

Yeast
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White Labs WLP320 American Hefeweizen Ale

Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step
Heat Type: Direct
Grain Lbs: 13.31
Water Qts: 16.00 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 4.00 - Before Additional Infusions
Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.20
Tun Thermal Mass: 0.00
Grain Temp: 80 F
Dough In Temp: 0 Time: 0
Saccharification Rest Temp: 155 Time: 90
Mash-out Rest Temp: 0 Time: 0
Sparge Temp: 170 Time: 30
Runnings Stopped At: 1.010 SG 2.56 Plato

Total Mash Volume Gal: 5.07 - After Additional Infusions
All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.

 

[bradsul]

My understanding is that 'bock' just refers to the strength of the beer. So it could be a regular dunkelweizen with a higher gravity. Given your anticipated OG I'd say it would be a weizenbock just for that reason.

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

I'd agree with bradsul, it's a Weizenbock based on the OG.

 

[Rhoobarb]

Cool, thanks guys. I leaving the recipe just as it is.

 

[homebrewer_99]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bock

Be sure to select the German Beer page at the bottom of the link,

Weizenbock is a derivative brew since weizen is an ale and bock is a lager.

 

[the_bird]

I've always understood a "weizenbock" as being what Brad and Baron said, a wheat beer that received the "bock" moniker not because it used a bock yeast (or any kind of lager yeast), but simply because of the beer's higher strength.

 

[Rhoobarb]

Found this and thought it was helpful. After reading it, I'm more confident that I'll be brewing an American version of a weizenbock and not a true German version. That's fine with me.