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As if factory farmed corn or soy is any better for the environment.

It's not the meat that's bad, it's the factory.

So how about, instead of avoiding meat, you just get meat that didn't come from a factory. Tons of places carry pastured grass fed beef these days. Then you don't have the health issues that come from being a vegetarian.

Farming in general is hard on the environment. Factory farmed meat isn't as good, it really isn't. Yeah, it's bad on the environment, but so cruel to the animals too. That's 75% of it for me. Grass fed beef is about 6.99/lb at my co-op, which isn't quite twice as much as the regular 93/7 beef at the meat counter at the super market. Which isn't terrible.
I try to avoid soy in general. It has a lot of estrogen. Don't need to be getting man ****s.

And, vegetarians don't have health issues. Getting enough protein isn't hard without meat. It really isn't. Vegans have to worry about it more than vegetarians, and even then it's not a huge deal. A lot of vegetarians just tend to replace meat with carbohydrates instead of food they should be eating, like vegetables! I really wish I could eat more veggies. It's tough because I've always been kind of a meat and potatoes kind of person.
 
Why is it that meat eaters are offended when a person chooses to avoid meat?
 
tagz said:
Why is it that meat eaters are offended when a person chooses to avoid meat?
I don't have a problem with what people eat as long as they aren't preachy or a pain in the ass about it. But most vegetarians and vegans that people see are both preachy and a pain in the ass. (Otherwise you probably wouldn't notice)
 
I was close to being slapped from a "vegetarian" girl in college when I asked why she didn't care about the souls of fish.

I had a similar thing. Asked a girl why she was a vegetarian, she said she didn't like the idea of raising animals for the pure and sole purpose of slaughtering them for human consumption.

I suggested that instead, we just go get a rifle, head out to the woods, and bag ourselves a deer. Problem solved! Bambi burgers for everyone!

(She didn't like me much after that.)
 
Why is it that meat eaters are offended when a person chooses to avoid meat?

First, I'm sure you didn't mean that as the broad-swipe generalization that your posts reads like.

Like AgentHubcap said, it's not so much, for some of us, that we're offended. It's that some vegans/vegetarians express themselves in such a way as to appear to be instigating an argument. Of course, this is true of many people expressing their points of view. Add to that the difficult nature if communication via typed word with the greater context removed. Looking back to the original post that started the whole "vegetarian" OT subtext:
Originally Posted by beersk
Unless of course you're a vegetarian or vegan. You know what that stuff is made of right?

I don't use it primarily because it smells bad, but also don't like what it's made of. I don't it's tasteless, but just can't bring myself to put it in my beer. I'd rather go the more natural route.

Fighting words? Of course not! But looking to start an argument? Reads that way to me. Nothing wrong with pointing out it isn't kosher or vegetarian, but leave it at that.
Anyway, this thread has jumped the shark, and I'm unsubscribing. Brew on.
 
First, I'm sure you didn't mean that as the broad-swipe generalization that your posts reads like.

Like AgentHubcap said, it's not so much, for some of us, that we're offended. It's that some vegans/vegetarians express themselves in such a way as to appear to be instigating an argument. Of course, this is true of many people expressing their points of view. Add to that the difficult nature if communication via typed word with the greater context removed. Looking back to the original post that started the whole "vegetarian" OT subtext:


Fighting words? Of course not! But looking to start an argument? Reads that way to me. Nothing wrong with pointing out it isn't kosher or vegetarian, but leave it at that.
Anyway, this thread has jumped the shark, and I'm unsubscribing. Brew on.
Unsubscribe away. It seems you're looking for an argument in my post. Just pointing out that gelatin is gross, in my opinion.
Vegetarians aren't generally the ones that are confrontational. It's the vegans that are. Many meat eaters don't have a conscience about what they eat, which is why many vegans are so annoying and militant about it, I think.
 
Unsubscribe away. It seems you're looking for an argument in my post. Just pointing out that gelatin is gross, in my opinion.
Vegetarians aren't generally the ones that are confrontational. It's the vegans that are. Many meat eaters don't have a conscience about what they eat, which is why many vegans are so annoying and militant about it, I think.

One of my favorite jokes

Q: How do you find the vegan in a room full of people?

A: Don't worry, they'll tell you.

;) :fro:
 
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I would think that vegans/vegetarians would not even drink beer since its not a necessity and that the harvesting of grains kills thousands of animals. Seems kind of hypocritical unless the grain you are buying is harvested by man and not machines.
 
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