US reported Osama has been killed

[GilaMinumBeer]

You also basically said that wine wasn't considered "booze" back then. I have not heard this before. What would have been stronger than wine though? You have to distill to get stronger and they didn't start distilling until 200 AD.

No. I propose that society at large was not educated enough to discern between table drinks and "Booze". Or at least the time period, and understanding of when/how it occured. Only that they could drink what was needed and did not succumb to the drunken illness. This is another one of those things that is elusive in religious texts. How did they come to discern the difference between table drinks and these "Strong Drinks" and by what indication did they learn to avoid the latter.

Incidentally I just found out from Wikipedia that ancient Arabs were one of the first cultures to distill alcohol. I gotta wonder what went wrong between then and now!

That fool Kalil. Fvcker washed from the cistern water and pee'd in the baptismal. Turns out he'd just came from Alibaba's where he'd bought the house date juice without noticing it was 6 months past it's born on date.

So the congregation took an idea and organized it.

Later, soon as they brought him home to his wife, she beat the crap outta him with her sandals cause it was that or strangle his ass with her sarong but she sure as heck wasn't gonna strip down in front of his worthless friends.

So, the congreagation took an idea, and organized a punishment from it.

But, that high falootin' queen up the street wouldn't dare risk damaging her newest Prince Falood strapless on a drunken husband so, she grabbed the nearest thing she could throw.

So, a congregation took an idea, and drunkeness was met with stones.




I could be wrong tho'.

 

[bernerbrau]

That fool Kalil. Fvcker washed from the cistern water and pee'd in the baptismal. Turns out he'd just came from Alibaba's where he'd bought the house date juice without noticing it was 6 months past it's born on date. So the congregation took an idea and organized it.

Just takes one to ruin it for everybody, I guess.

 

[bob1852]

Are you casting biblical stones?

 

[MeatyPortion]

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[BlackDogBrewing]

One less moron, too bad there are many to take his place.

 

[bernerbrau]

I loved this part from an NPR interview with Lawrence Wright yesterday:

(retrieved from http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=135917389)

GROSS: How did the reality of his demise compare with some of the scenarios you'd imagined?

Mr. WRIGHT: Actually, Terry, I think it was in 2006, the CIA came to me to write a scenario, in their words, about what would we do if we got bin Laden because this has been a subject of concern within the intelligence community.

What if we did get him? How would we treat him? Where would we take him? Would it be better to take him alive or dead? And because I had written this movie, "The Siege," you know, and Hollywood had done a somewhat better job of connecting the dots about terrorism and the threat to America than the intelligence community.

The CIA was reaching out to screenwriters, such as I had done, and I said: Well, you know, I'm a reporter. I can't go writing screenplays for the CIA. But I'll tell you in the form of an op-ed for the New York Times what I think if we were able to catch bin Laden.

First of all, remember that bin Laden is the most famous man in the world. He's going to be one of the most famous men in history. So if you have the good luck to catch him, you have to deal with the legacy, not just the man.

And if you catch him, don't kill him because he'll become a martyr, which is what he seeks to be. But don't take him to America just yet.

First of all, take him to Kenya, where on August 6, 1998, he set off a bomb in front of an American embassy, killing 224 people and wounding, blinding 150 Africans. Let him sit in a courtroom in Nairobi and tell 150 blind Africans that he was just striking at a symbol of American power.

And then you can take him to Tanzania, where on the same day, he set off another bomb in front of another American embassy, killing 11 people, all of them Muslims. And bin Laden excused that because it was Friday, and good Muslims would be in the mosque.

I think that would be a wonderful venue to talk about what a good Muslim actually is. And then you could bring him to America and have him answer for the death of the 17 sailors on the USS Cole in October, 2000, and the 3,000 Americans who died on 9/11.

But you don't have to stop there. You can take him so many places. You know, Casablanca, Madrid, London, Bali. But just take him one last place. Take him home and try him under Sharia law, which is the only law that he and his followers would respect.

And if he's convicted, he would be taken to a square in downtown Riyadh, and the executioner is a big man with a long sword, and it's Saudi custom for the executioner to go out and ask the crowd, which is composed of the victims of the condemned man, to forgive him.

And if they couldn't do that, then the executioner would do his job, and bin Laden would be taken and buried in an unmarked Wahhabi graveyard. And I thought in that manner, you could begin to roll back some of his awful legacy.

 

[Pappers_]

I loved this part from an NPR interview with Lawrence Wright yesterday:

That is so great. I'll have to get the Fresh Air podcast. Thanks for sharing it!

 

[frailn]

unbeknownst to the free world, the team that took out Osama was comprised exclusively of female special forces operatives from Thailand. You won't see this on CNN. I have connections.

I give you....Seal Team Six...

 

[wedge421]

unbeknownst to the free world, the team that took out osama was comprised exclusively of female special forces operatives from thailand. You won't see this on cnn. I have connections.

I give you....seal team six...

nice!

 

[prrriiide]

Actually, I don't think alcohol was Osama's vice...

Osama bin Tokin'

AFA the burial, there is a good reason to treat him the way they did.

My understanding is that there are two types of burial in the Muslim faith - one for "regular" deaths, and one for martyrs. There are specific ways that a martyr's body is to be handled in order for him to be considered a martyr. As I understand it, since Osama was given a common "funeral," he cannot strictly be considered a martyr. Now, many will still consider him a martyr, but if what I heard is correct he cannot be officially declared a martyr by a cleric or order.