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is it illegal to brew under the age of 21? at what point does your must officially become alcohol? If you let a juice sit out for too long then it starts to ferment is that illegal? and back in the day wasnt the legal drinking age 18? why did it change?
 
is it illegal to brew under the age of 21? at what point does your must officially become alcohol? If you let a juice sit out for too long then it starts to ferment is that illegal? and back in the day wasnt the legal drinking age 18? why did it change?

Yes, it is illegal to brew under the age of 21 as the moment you add yeast to juice/cider/wort it becomes wine/hard cider/beer.

And picking a new name won't help. We have your IP and if you continue to sign up with a "new" name we can just notify your local law enforcement and internet provider (both verizon for your smartphone and charter for home internet).

Please respect the rules of our forum.
 
How many times must the ban hammer drop before one gets the point? This thread is getting pretty amusing.

I prayed and prayed when i first found out my wife was preggers that it would be a boy so I wouldn't have to deal with teenage girl drama with my first child. God delivered and I get to have a boy first. Don't care if a girl comes next, if she gets all "teenagey" and dramatic then the boy and I can go escape to the brewshed while the wife calms her down.
 
Actually here is an interesting question re: laws that are sort of on topic... Im sure there is a lawyer or two kicking around here....

If my friend's brother, who just turned 20, were to assist me when I was brewing, are one or both of us breaking the law? is all well if I am the one pitching the yeast?
 
I think it comes down to the situation the kids grow in but personally I blame most parents for the behavior of their kids, that being said....lol..
So at what age is it legal to be a homebrewers assistant? I have one for sure and a couple up comers...lol.. I know it could be serious but is my 11yr old breaking the law when I ask her to tap my keg? Shes good at it :)
 
Actually here is an interesting question re: laws that are sort of on topic... Im sure there is a lawyer or two kicking around here....

If my friend's brother, who just turned 20, were to assist me when I was brewing, are one or both of us breaking the law? is all well if I am the one pitching the yeast?

If you check the laws for your state, it might vary as long as he wasn't pitching the yeast or imbibing in the product when finished.

In Wisconsin, for example, your kids can drink in bars (or at home) with parental permission and presence. I've had a cocktail with my kids when they were older teens, in Wisconsin, completely legally in a hotel bar.

They still can't brew alone legally, and of course aren't allowed on our forum because our rules state the standard legal drinking age.
 
Interesting. Apparently there used to be a loophole in Louisianna (this might be urban myth) that allowed underage kids to drink, but not purchase alcohol. It was also illegal to purchase alcohol for minors. However, if said minor just magically happened to get his hands on it...
 
Yes, it is illegal to brew under the age of 21 as the moment you add yeast to juice/cider/wort it becomes wine/hard cider/beer.

And picking a new name won't help. We have your IP and if you continue to sign up with a "new" name we can just notify your local law enforcement and internet provider (both verizon for your smartphone and charter for home internet).

Please respect the rules of our forum.

Now this deserves an OH SNAP!
 
Mark Twain (no, it wasn't Ben Franklin) said "When a child turns 13, he should be sealed up in a barrel and fed through the bunghole. When he turns 16, seal up the bunghole"

Cue Beavis and Butthead bunghole jokes.
 
If people under the age of 21 aren't allowed to use this forum, why are people in Alabama and Mississippi allowed to use it?

That's a good question! I have no idea. :drunk:


Seriously, it just has to do with liability. We do not want any problems from hysterical parents or being accused of helping minors. If a kid was smart enough to lie about his age (or at least not promote it) and act like they were of "age" I don't think it'd be as much as an issue. We can say- "Well he SAID he was 22!" for example.

But in a case where someone comes on the forum and says they are hiding homebrew under the sink to hide it from their parents, and admits to being a teenager in the US, we have to act and can't turn a blind eye.

In cases of adults who may or may not be skirting the law on several issues, as long as they don't brag or post about it, it's not my problem.

I have to have a certain friend who gave me a certain liquid at a certain NHC. And I liked it, as that certain person knows! (That WAS you, wasn't it, chef?)

I'm pretty laid back and easy going, and wish the laws in the US would be changed. I'm fine with recreational drug use for adults, for example. But this isn't about my personal feelings, it's about not allowing discussions of illegal activities on our forum. Anyone dumb enough to say "Hey, I'm doing some illegal stuff" won't be long on our forum.
 
All kidding aside it was poorly thought out on his end. 1) admit to criminal (ok let me just say illegal) activity and 2) do so in order to get across a rather obnoxious message.

"You are all jerkwads! thats why Im going to sell the 30 grams of coke I have sitting here at my house at 354 Maple Avenue in Secaucus New Jersey to your kids! Ha!"
 
It's even better: part of his point was that "Hey, we teenagers are pretty sharp and can take care of ourselves, and you old fuddy-duddies don't get it! Oh, wait. I just did something stupid."
 
CreamyGoodness said:
@JonM, and then came back under a new name... that was almost exactly the same as the old one...

Ha! I missed that part.
 
That's a good question! I have no idea. :drunk:


Seriously, it just has to do with liability. We do not want any problems from hysterical parents or being accused of helping minors. If a kid was smart enough to lie about his age (or at least not promote it) and act like they were of "age" I don't think it'd be as much as an issue. We can say- "Well he SAID he was 22!" for example.

But in a case where someone comes on the forum and says they are hiding homebrew under the sink to hide it from their parents, and admits to being a teenager in the US, we have to act and can't turn a blind eye.

In cases of adults who may or may not be skirting the law on several issues, as long as they don't brag or post about it, it's not my problem.

I have to have a certain friend who gave me a certain liquid at a certain NHC. And I liked it, as that certain person knows! (That WAS you, wasn't it, chef?)

I'm pretty laid back and easy going, and wish the laws in the US would be changed. I'm fine with recreational drug use for adults, for example. But this isn't about my personal feelings, it's about not allowing discussions of illegal activities on our forum. Anyone dumb enough to say "Hey, I'm doing some illegal stuff" won't be long on our forum.

Thanks for the response - wasn't trying to be a smartass, just normal curiosity!
 
FWIW, it is legal to make wine in Alabama, but not brew beer. I don't know about Mississippi.
 
should i mention i first brewed a beer kit with my old dad nearly 30 years ago?

btw i was 41 yesterday:eek:

stood me in good stead, im now brewing at a micro in liverpool
 
My 12 yo brews beer with me. She has for several years. So I expect that if she wants to make beer or whatever, she won't feel like she has to hide it under the sink (cause, you know, parents never go under the sink for stuff...)

I remember the first alcoholic drink I made was some fizzy cider. Dad kept the cider out on the porch in the fall to ripen. I poured some in a tupperware glass and hid it in the basement behind some canning jars. Dad and I were sitting there watching the Pistons (IIRC) when the lid blew off. He looked at me and I just said, "I think my cider is ready." He just shook his head and smiled. Drinking was not allowed in our house.
 
My kids brew with me... and occasionally have miniscule samples of the end product. My mom was born in Austria, and her and her brothers and sisters used to have to drink a cup of some kind of small beer every night. Only in this culture do people view letting children have some alcohol as a carnal sin. I'm a firm believer that if you demystify something, your children are far less likely to try to sneak it/have a problem with it.
 
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