buzzkill
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why not wrap it in a cloth and dip that? the cloth will soak up the plastie dip and make it thicker,stronger. a T-shirt dipped carboy.
I posted this in broke a carboy thread I just put the glass carboy in a 5 gallon bucket this way if it breaks no glass flying around and no beer on the floor. Also the bucket protects the carboy from getting bumped in the first place . Also I can pick up the carboy with the pail handle never actually touching the carboy.
My 6.5 gallon carboys won't fit in a 5 gallon bucket.
Lamarguy, I'd rather spend $20 or so (plus a spare carboy) to keep using the equipment I have. Plus, if this experiment works, it may help others who use glass.
Just a thought, but if you truly want to help others that ferment in glass, consider starting an insurance plan to cover glass carboy breakage accidents. The cost of an ER visit and surgery is quite a price to pay for using glass...
Some might consider this trolling, but I'm just stating the facts.
This stuff is $$$$$ Plasti Dip - 5 Gallon
Thankfully I have good insurance. I just got my ER bill yesterday, and all I have to pay is $25. I haven't received the ambulance bill yet, but the last time I took an ambulance ride, I didn't pay a dime for it.
Everybody's got an opinion...
That's a five gallon bucket of the stuff. The 14 oz can I bought was just over $10. I have two coats on the 5 gal carboy, and I probably have enough to apply two more coats. To me, that's cheap for the piece of mind that I hope to achieve.
If I used glass fermenters, I would go to the dollar store an buy a couple rolls of packing or strapping tape, the kind with strings in it. I bet you could throw it off a parking garage and not lose a single shard.
Is that a challenge I hear..lmao!!!! I think I am going to stick with the spray on idea.If I used glass fermenters, I would go to the dollar store an buy a couple rolls of packing or strapping tape, the kind with strings in it. I bet you could throw it off a parking garage and not lose a single shard.
I think that the wow factor of rubberizing a glass carboy is pretty cool. But when you come right down to it, I'd raher put my faith in something more substantial. For example, I think that the Clear Duct Tape from Nashua (Nashua 176) wrapped around the carboy would be more effective in a catastrophic accident. And its pretty clear. See it here:
Nashua 176 Clear Duct Tape at FindTape.com
Nashua 176 Clear Duct Tape
Nashua 176 Clear Duct Tape has transparent woven PE fibers with a clear acrylic adhesive. Easy to tear and use. Nashua Clear Duct Tape makes invisible repairs around the home & workplace with the strength of standard duct tape. Note: some of the new lot of Nashua 176 we received comes on a blank white core.
Nashua 176 Clear Duct Tape specifications:
Adhesive: clear acrylic
Carrier/Backing: polyethylene fibers
Thickness: 5.5 mils (total)
Adhesion: 30 ounces per inch (to stainless steel)
Tensile Strength: 38 pounds per inch (longitudinal)
Core: 3" diameter
Available at home depot or lowes, I've seen it at one of them. I concede that duct tape is not as 'sexy' as spray on rubber.
Yeah, I challenge masonjax to buy a 5 gal carboy, wrap it up in the tape, and throw it off a parking garage. I wanna see pics of the whole process. A video would be good too.
Here's what I did to test this idea:
I bought a 14 oz can of Plasti Dip, cleaned the outside of the carboy with soap and water, then cleaned with rubbing alcohol using a paper towel, and then painted the Plasti Dip (without diluting it with anything) onto the carboy with a sponge brush. The 14 oz can gave me enough to apply four coats to the carboy.
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Once dry, I took it outside, placed it in a cardboard box, filled to about 3/4 full with water, then tried hitting it with a hammer. The box didn't allow much room to swing the hammer with enough force to break it, so I decided to try dropping it. The first couple of drops were on the lawn, which seemed to give a little when being impacted by the weight. I then placed a piece of slate under the box, and tried dropping it on that. The first two attempts weren't successful, but I was determined, so I dropped it a third time. With the final drop, I tried to direct it onto the corner. That did the trick.
I quickly grabbed my camera to take pictures of the aftermath. Notice the water level in the box. There were several small holes in the coating that were spraying water out. It won't save the beer, but it will slow the loss down.
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Though it isn't 100% safe from shards of glass puncturing the skin, it does seem to add a measure of protection. I will be doing this to all of my remaining carboys in the near future.
This could save a lot of people from trips to the emergency room.
This could save a lot of people from trips to the emergency room.
As far as plastic as a fermentation vessel is concerned, I'm not opposed to it. I'm sure it has as many, if not more, pros and cons than glass. I have two 6.5 gal and two 5 gal glass carboys. I don't want to go out and replace my equipment just yet. Especially when plastic has a limited life span. Glass will last as long as it's intact. I'm saving for a SS conical fermentor, but in the meantime, I need to use the equipment I have now.
As I posted on another thread:
I understand your plan and it makes sense...The was "obvious man" talking.
Isn't it kind of thread-jacking to keep suggesting the most obvious non-solution? Especially when the OP has already said that the point is to make carboys less lethal, not to find a non-breakable fermenter?Also, buckets are easier to clean.
Really...I just don't see the appeal of this whatsoever.
Isn't it kind of thread-jacking to keep suggesting the most obvious non-solution? Especially when the OP has already said that the point is to make carboys less lethal, not to find a non-breakable fermenter?
the appeal is that many people prefer to ferment in glass (much easier to sanitize than glass)
Why dontcha start a "why plastic dipping won't work on a carboy" thread of your own, instead of taking a dump in here? I don't walk into your home and pee in a corner. Why do you nay sayers feel the need to do it here?
Honestly, I just hope the OP doesn't get sued by someone who tries his technique and still manages to land themselves in the ER when their carboy violently shatters. Most of the injuries have occurred from the bottom falling out during cleaning or transfer (implies a large amount water weight). A thin plastic coating certainly isn't going to hold the bottom on...
Well we managed to get through nearly 70 plus posts before the armchair quarterbacks started chiming in with negative.
That's gotta be some sort of a record.
Well we managed to get through nearly 70 plus posts before the armchair quarterbacks started chiming in with negative.
That's gotta be some sort of a record.
The "point" of doing this, is to see if it will be beneficial to do it....Just like someone decided to use a turkey fryer, or a gott cooler, or an coil of copper referigerator tubing plunged into boiling wort with cold water running in it, or the stone at the bottom of an aquarium hooked up to a red oxygen bottle.
We don't think twice about any of the above non traditional/non brewing gear...but at some point someone thought out of the box and decided to try it.
It is how new ideas get incorporated into things....New ground gets broken.
There have been countless threads about broken carboys, so if this makes them safer then it's a good thing...there have been threads about how great opaque carboys would be and even using glass paint on them to make them more light tight...so if this helps then that is another niche that this could fill.
So there are enough reasons why this could potentially have merit. And I bet if the op HAD just posted a complete thread with it done...even you nay saysers and can't understand whyers would be sporting a chubby about how great it is....but no...because people actually want to collaborate, to brainstorm you feel the need to pee in our potty?
Why dontcha start a "why plastic dipping won't work on a carboy" thread of your own, instead of taking a dump in here? I don't walk into your home and pee in a corner. Why do you nay sayers feel the need to do it here?
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