Trub...

[EddieTheBrewerLADET]

Hey everyone,

I havent brewed in a few years and just jumped back into it. I brewed a double New England IPA. I wasn’t able to separate the trub from the boil kettle so I ended up dumping all of it in, but it still didn’t seem like that much.

Here’s a picture of my fermenter on Day 1 of fermentation. Obviously there will be a lot of sediment at the bottom but this seems like an awful lot. It’s like 1/3. I did a 20 min boil.

Thoughts? Will this compact down further? It doesn’t seem like all hop particulate.

Thx a bunch!

Edward

 

[ccous]

That looks like it’ll be absolutely fine to me. After fermentation your trub will be more compact

 

[pompeiisneaks]

agreed. the yeast right now is banging it's head to the beautiful sugary goodness you gave it, once it's satiated, it'll start flocc'ing out and settle down with the trub etc.

 

[EddieTheBrewerLADET]

Thx a bunch guys!!

You don’t think I’m going to loose as much beer as my fermenter currently looks standing? I’ve just never seen this much before. Also just for my novice brain... Scientifically, how will the later at the bottom compact?

If it helps by the way.. my recipe:

9lbs LME
Stepped 1lb each of flaked wheats and oats.
5oz of hops in whirlpool
Yeast: Imperial Dry Hop

Going to hop again during fermentation and once more before bottling. Do you reccomend using muselin bags for both of these additions? Will I still get the haze conversation and as much hop utilization?

As long as you all don’t think I’ll loose 1/3 of the beer in fermenter to trub, I’ll feel much better haha. I’m used to seeing inch or two but this is like 5-6 inches of trub.

 

[EddieTheBrewerLADET]

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[RPh_Guy]

Scientifically, how will the later at the bottom compact?

Solids will settle down because they are more dense than the liquid.

 

[RM-MN]

Thoughts? Will this compact down further? It doesn’t seem like all hop particulate.

I'd expect the trub to compact to about 1/2 inch thick by the time the beer is ready to bottle. At this point the break material is mixed pretty thoroughly with the wort so it looks like a lot but it really isn't.

 

[TechFanMD]

Cool picture. I don't worry about trub at all and most of the time just put all of it in the fermenter. It compacts pretty quickly, and within days there is a layer of yeast on top of it - so I'm not sure how much the beer is even in contact with the trub once fermentation hits peak or slightly after. I have no greater difficulty racking off clean beer with or without having put the trub in the fermenter.

When I rack, I hold or mount the autosiphon so it is pulling from the first few inches then slowly lower it as the beer level goes down. I hit a point where I can see the yeast cake/trub through the beer and know when to stop. Even with this I often only leave a few ounces behind.

 

[BrewZer]

"Nobody Knows the Trub-ble I've Seen"... For future reference, you can pour through a sanitized strainer/colander to get the big chunks out... also helps aerate the wort when you pour thru the grid.

 

[pompeiisneaks]

"Nobody Knows the Trub-ble I've Seen"... For future reference, you can pour through a sanitized strainer/colander to get the big chunks out... also helps aerate the wort when you pour thru the grid.

This, I've done this for years and never had to add oxygen to my beers AND it catches the big stuff.

 

[EddieTheBrewerLADET]

Thx a lot everyone!

Doing my krausen hop tonight and my dry hop a few days later. How do you feel about putting the pellets in loose for krausen and bagging them in something for the dry hop to minimize, as best I can, hop particulate? It’ll be 3oz each time, which seems like could also minimize my beer yield. I’ve also read that they sometimes don’t settle out. In that case, raking cake covered with a mesh bag?

Thx again!

 

[balrog]

Way to soon to think you'll know what final trub will be in a week or so; it will continue to settle.

Hops thrown in loose will also settle, altho many rec a filter on the racking cane, I can't find the one I like best but was a SS washer, wrapped with mesh bag, rubber banded to end of racking cane. This provide more filter area than just bag over cane which will immediately turn into a filter the exact diameter of the cane (which is, to be honest, rather insubstantial to say the least).

 

[balrog]

Found it. It was a post by @day_trippr here.