I have added flour to beers when I cannot find the appropriate whole-ish grain. All I can say is expect a really slow draining mash and sparge, and potential turbidity in the beer that will never drop out. It's not a good time.
Time to Get Real About Eating Spent Grain
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Other than watching a batch's total distatic power, and the issues with lautering, and further down the line with turbidity, I suppose wheat/corn/rice flour could be used....
I use spent grain on food for my family frequently.
I typically blend the sg with whatever liquid the recipe calls for, just for a smoother effect.
They do co tain some soluble fiber still, a lot of roughage, a fair amount of protein still, and surprisingly, still some carvohydrates. The carbs are not all converted during the mash.
Spent grain in compost functions as a green because of the protein. Protein=nitrogen. Same reason it is a good supplement to livestock feed.
I've made bread, muffins, brownies and the house favorite are the pancakes and waffles, they turn out similar to the Kodiak cakes from the store.
I typically blend the sg with whatever liquid the recipe calls for, just for a smoother effect.
They do co tain some soluble fiber still, a lot of roughage, a fair amount of protein still, and surprisingly, still some carvohydrates. The carbs are not all converted during the mash.
Spent grain in compost functions as a green because of the protein. Protein=nitrogen. Same reason it is a good supplement to livestock feed.
I've made bread, muffins, brownies and the house favorite are the pancakes and waffles, they turn out similar to the Kodiak cakes from the store.
Well, yes a little spend grain does go a long way… I use them wet for bread and ”cookies” for my parrot. I don’t bother drying and grinding them to use in bread now, but who knows with inflation it might be desirable. And remember, if your spent grains are tasting good then your efficiency could be better. 
Ask @bracconiere... He might know
i use my spent grain in the garden for growing tobacco....but i just had the thought due to your comment, what about 'second runnings' with like a gallon of milk to make malted milk? wouldn't keep the grain out of the garden, but that's where ends up one way or the other, as dirt....
edit: damn: DKU....
i've used 5lb with 8 lbs barley malt....sparging is a SOB, but it got done....these were destined to be 10 gallon batches with 7 gallons strike water, for the record.....if i had to do it again, i'd try and make crackers out of the flour first to try to give it a bit more lauter capability...
that's when i first started malting, and didn't think i could dry 20lbs with just cool air flow, so i was using a food dehydrater....didn't want to feel like a total simp with the sugar so i was using white flour.....
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Threw some on the oatmeal this morning, other than being a little thicker I couldn't really tell. Maybe the banana I threw in there this morning masked it? These grains did have rice hulls in them, but like I mentioned they've been dried and pulverized via our blender into a fine powder.
So extra nutrition, fiber, etc., w/o much if any taste? Sounds like a win to me.
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I'm new here, so seeing people hijack my threads makes me feel welcome.
it's not that off topic! we are talking about eating grains here? which gives me another thought....use a lot of wheat and use the mash to extract the gluten for seitan? or there's anti gluten people that say there's enough gluten in barley even to give them problems?
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All I know is, I like the taste and texture of spent grain. It reminds me of a hot cereal called Ralston. I don't know if they still make it. And anything that will facilitate a healthy deuce is welcome.
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Dried and pulverized, then used to make these crackers: How to Make Spent Grain Crackers | Spent Grain Soda Crackers
They're delicious!
They're delicious!
One of us, one of us...
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And lose all the chewiness?
Ah, there's a long interesting history behind the cereal produced by Ralston - some of it unsavory.
For instance:
"The name Ralston stems from a minor social movement in the late 19th Century called Ralstonism - created by Webster Edgerly. Followers of the movement (about 800,000) followed the motto "Regime, Activity, Light, Strength, Temperation, Oxygen and Nature" - the first letters of which spelled out "Ralston".
Ralstonism required its adherents to follow very strict guidelines regarding diet and personal hygiene. Since the ideology's founder advocated the castration of all non-Caucasian males, it could be assumed that pro-Caucasionism and minority-exclusionism were additional tenants of the movement not covered by the "Ralston" moniker."
Yikes!
I'll stick with Maypo.Ah, there's a long interesting history behind the cereal produced by Ralston - some of it unsavory.
For instance:
"The name Ralston stems from a minor social movement in the late 19th Century called Ralstonism - created by Webster Edgerly. Followers of the movement (about 800,000) followed the motto "Regime, Activity, Light, Strength, Temperation, Oxygen and Nature" - the first letters of which spelled out "Ralston".
Ralstonism required its adherents to follow very strict guidelines regarding diet and personal hygiene. Since the ideology's founder advocated the castration of all non-Caucasian males, it could be assumed that pro-Caucasionism and minority-exclusionism were additional tenants of the movement not covered by the "Ralston" moniker."
Yikes!
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Ralstonism required its adherents to follow very strict guidelines regarding diet and personal hygiene. Since the ideology's founder advocated the castration of all non-Caucasian males, it could be assumed that pro-Caucasionism and minority-exclusionism were additional tenants of the movement not covered by the "Ralston" moniker."
Yikes!
Well, sure. It said that on the back of the box.
"It's not just for Eugenicists anymore!"Ah, there's a long interesting history behind the cereal produced by Ralston - some of it unsavory.
For instance:
"The name Ralston stems from a minor social movement in the late 19th Century called Ralstonism - created by Webster Edgerly. Followers of the movement (about 800,000) followed the motto "Regime, Activity, Light, Strength, Temperation, Oxygen and Nature" - the first letters of which spelled out "Ralston".
Ralstonism required its adherents to follow very strict guidelines regarding diet and personal hygiene. Since the ideology's founder advocated the castration of all non-Caucasian males, it could be assumed that pro-Caucasionism and minority-exclusionism were additional tenants of the movement not covered by the "Ralston" moniker."
Yikes!
so as a caucasian male, my idea of the malted milk should use the 'special' 4% milk, that i used to see at the store?
edit: on a more serious note, being that everything water soluble has hopefully been extracted already for the wort....would a more fatty concoction be something to think about?
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i just want to say most people ignore my threads, and when my one about winding extension cords went off the rails with details like 90° angles, i loved it!
well anyway, the topic of eating spent grain, and that comment, and you reacting to people trying to get creative had me wondering of the sincerity...and concerned, i like the fact you don't brew to any style!
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I like to take it and add some butter,salt and pepper. Reminds me of steel cut oats with more flavor. I try not to eat too much but it seems to help with my IBD somewhat. the rest I use to make doggy cookies.
mixing it up with the fat, do you notice any mild gluten formation? asking for a friend......
Spent grain is high in fiber content and protein, so much so that there is a fairly big movement in Europe to use even more for human consumption. I attended an online event a year or so ago put on by (Breaking barriers to accelerate the transition I Foodvalley NL) and was amazed at the possibilities. There are businesses in Europe and in the U.S. that are using spent grain as the primary input to making foods and other items like biodegradable plastics.
All that said, it will most likely be a while before homebrew spent grains can be consistently funneled into any of these business processes.
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Honestly I have no clue I just eat it in the morning and go about my day. It's not overly pasty if thats what you mean its more like a almost overcooked rice or grapenuts added to hot milk if that makes sense.
This looks pretty interesting! I also see there are a bunch of other spent grain recipe listed. Some Spent Grain Crackers would be a great item to take along to a homebrew club meeting, or any type of gathering.
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Sorry. Lost me at "dry spent grains in the oven for 9 hours"
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Yeah, that's not nearly long enough.
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I went through a spell of making bread with it. I had trouble getting the bread to bake all the way through (which probably had nothing to do with the spent grain) and it made a heavy bread. These days it goes into the compost bin to turn into great fertilizer for my gardens.
Yeah, that's indeed totally ridiculous. That's why I use spent grain that's wet. If I would need it dryer, I'd squeeze it.
Sometimes I freeze a few 48 oz cottage cheese tubs filled with wet spent grain, to be used for baking past the initial 2-3 days.
Here’s my recipe for 2 loaves because of the size of my KA mixer. This is a recipe that uses the grains damp and adjusts the hydration for it. Since we are never 100 percent sure about the water content, if you are an experienced baker use your judgement about how the dough should feel/behave and take a temperature. The bread isn’t cooked through until it’s 200-210F and the probe is clean.
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SG could be used for growing mushrooms
!..Forget about crackers, bread and cookies, the biggest bang for the buck will be for drying and making protein powder so we can grow 20-inch arms like Nate and Damien from TH did back in 2016..
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By the way it seems spent grain is not that friendly as it can kill horses.. and if the mash was hopped, don’t feed it to your dog as it can kill them too, hoppy dog treats = dead dog. Same with grapes I heard… 
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/spent-grains-to-horses.703861/
If using spent grain to grow Tobacco, please do not use Tobacco for brewing as liquid Nicotine has a very low LD50 (in the milligrams/Kg weight) and can easily poison if not kill a human, rumor has it that in jail when people want to commit suicide they soak cigarettes in hot water and then drink the water..
Raw spent grain = dead horse, dead dog and deadly tobacco… so +1 for protein powder and 20-inch arms…
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/spent-grains-to-horses.703861/
If using spent grain to grow Tobacco, please do not use Tobacco for brewing as liquid Nicotine has a very low LD50 (in the milligrams/Kg weight) and can easily poison if not kill a human, rumor has it that in jail when people want to commit suicide they soak cigarettes in hot water and then drink the water..
Raw spent grain = dead horse, dead dog and deadly tobacco… so +1 for protein powder and 20-inch arms…
The mushrooms are collonizing the spent grain substrate quite well it seems. But it must be autoclaved and sterile, otherwise the sugars in solution there make any mikroorganism go rampage. Imagine a wild yeast, some lactic acid bacteria and some mold get hold on these..... instantly gone.By the way it seems spent grain is not that friendly as it can kill horses.. and if the mash was hopped, don’t feed it to your dog as it can kill them too, hoppy dog treats = dead dog. Same with grapes I heard…
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/spent-grains-to-horses.703861/
If using spent grain to grow Tobacco, please do not use Tobacco for brewing as liquid Nicotine has a very low LD50 (in the milligrams/Kg weight) and can easily poison if not kill a human, rumor has it that in jail when people want to commit suicide they soak cigarettes in hot water and then drink the water..
Raw spent grain = dead horse, dead dog and deadly tobacco… so +1 for protein powder and 20-inch arms…
I have had the same experience with drying and making into a flour. The spent grain flour doesn't seem to act as a flour substitute and the bread doesn't rise and is very heavy.
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How do you do it? Do you use it for a Fertiliser, or as a Mulch material?
This year I'm going to start growing my own tobacco (say hi to your another time-consuming hobby, Mr Protos).
I'm a pipe smoker mainly but time to time I enjoy a roll-my-own cigarette as well, my cigarette tobacco stock is almost over and I don't want to restock it for the ridiculous prices they charge for it now.
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2-cups packed brown or yellow sugar
1-cup veg. oil (or lard or butter or whatever)
2-large eggs
mix together well,
1-1/2 cups flour
1-cup flaked oats (omit if in mash)
2-cups spent grains
1/4 cup raisins (or smahed hazelnuts, chocolate chips...whatever you like)
roll into balls about the size of a walnut or golf ball and press a little flat on baking sheet
bake at 350° about 10 mins
I think that's how I've done it... yes you get a few husks in your teeth, but hey; it helps clean your gumline and they taste great!.
EDIT: I forgot; If the mix is too dry, I add up to a 1/4 cup of black coffee to get the consistency right.
1-cup veg. oil (or lard or butter or whatever)
2-large eggs
mix together well,
1-1/2 cups flour
1-cup flaked oats (omit if in mash)
2-cups spent grains
1/4 cup raisins (or smahed hazelnuts, chocolate chips...whatever you like)
roll into balls about the size of a walnut or golf ball and press a little flat on baking sheet
bake at 350° about 10 mins
I think that's how I've done it... yes you get a few husks in your teeth, but hey; it helps clean your gumline
and they taste great!.EDIT: I forgot; If the mix is too dry, I add up to a 1/4 cup of black coffee to get the consistency right.
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well, i just dump it in the garden...not sure if it helps really.
and happy farming! curing it is an art....
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That's where I failed my last attempt, 7 years ago. Planted the transplants, babied them through the summer, harvested successfully and then lost the entire batch to mold in a screwed curing.
Not unlike spoiling a nice wort with a filthy infected yeast.
This year will grow my plants from the seeds.
Again, not unlike growing a yeast starter out of a single cell (just way longer and immensely more difficult).
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