Thousand Oaks, California

[jerryboy]

+1

Interested in this buy, if not to late.

Thanks.

 

[chemman14]

Not too late. I will try to get prices this weekend as I got busy this weekend and wasnt able to go in

 

[Woz]

eager to hear some news. were any of you guys at the meeting tonight?

 

[chemman14]

I have been bomed on the past two weekends. If anyone wants to take this over feel free. I also wont be able to get in there next weekend. Just started a new job so things have been hectic

 

[LilManBrewing]

I have been bomed on the past two weekends. If anyone wants to take this over feel free. I also wont be able to get in there next weekend. Just started a new job so things have been hectic

Take it over? I'm in Ventura and I'm willing to help. Let me know what you need me to do, I would be more than happy to keep this going.

 

[Cromwell]

I think what we need to do is to have a business (preferably a brewery) willing to place the order for us. The best prices are only available to businesses. So we need to find a business (like Surf, Enegren, the Lab or someone like them) who is willing to place an order and have it delivered to them. Once we have that, we can just point people to the supplier and take orders, then figure out payment and delivery. I haven't asked Surf because they sell grain, so it's not really in their best interest for us to get grain cheaply. I don't know if it has to be a brewery though - maybe any small business will do? Anyone own a small business that could do this?

 

[LilManBrewing]

^^^
Does the OP have a connection already established? If he does I can follow up with it. I don't know any of the owners of our local breweries well enough to ask for an order.

 

[vortexla]

If you just need a wholesale permit, then I could probably buy it under mine if need be.

 

[Cromwell]

OK, let me ask the supplier I know if just a wholesale permit is ok. We'd need a place to deliver to, but if a residence works I can have it delivered to me.

 

[LilManBrewing]

Yeah, let me know. I wouldn't mind if it were delivered to my house either. Shoot me a pm if you need me to do any other specifics.

 

[Cromwell]

Ok, the supplier that the group buyers back east use won't sell to anyone but an actual brewer, or an LHBS. So, we have to get a brewer to do the buy for us. I'm guessing the LHBS's won't want to do this, since it's basically cutting into their sales.
I think the options here are Enegren, and maybe The Lab. I can ask at either one, but does anyone know either of them well enough to ask this as a favor?

 

[LilManBrewing]

^^
No, I've met the owner/brewer of the lab. Cool guy, but I do not know him well enough to ask for this favor.

 

[LilManBrewing]

So we can all assume this deal/thread is dead.....?

 

[krazydave]

I'm curious also... I'd like to get in on a local group buy as well.

 

[chemman14]

I finally talked to the guys at Enegren a month or so back and they said it wouldn't be possible for them to order for us. However, I am going to be making a trip out to more beer in riverside in the near future and they have decent prices on whole sacks. See the prices here. http://morebeer.com/search/102161///Brewing_Grains_-_Bulk_Pricing!
I would be willing to pick up some bags for anyone in the Thousand Oaks area if you wanted to help cover some of the gas costs. email me at chemman14 at gmail dot com if you are interested.

 

[Cromwell]

I dropped this for two reasons: first I didn't see anyone willing to sell to a non-retail store or commercial brewer, and I couldn't find a brewer who could do it. Obviously a retail store wouldn't want to either, since that directly cannibalizes his business.

Second, the LHBS that's home to the Maltose Falcons has a special price on all grains at $1.40/lb and 2-row for $1/lb if you join their grain club. Not as cheap as buying wholesale, but it's closer, and you don't actually have to buy a full sack, or pay for shipping. I'm still down if someone can figure out how to get a group buy, though.

 

[chemman14]

I dropped this for two reasons: first I didn't see anyone willing to sell to a non-retail store or commercial brewer, and I couldn't find a brewer who could do it. Obviously a retail store wouldn't want to either, since that directly cannibalizes his business.

Second, the LHBS that's home to the Maltose Falcons has a special price on all grains at $1.40/lb and 2-row for $1/lb if you join their grain club. Not as cheap as buying wholesale, but it's closer, and you don't actually have to buy a full sack, or pay for shipping. I'm still down if someone can figure out how to get a group buy, though.

Yeah I do the grain club currently but I like the additional savings of buying in bulk
Editl: Plus it gives me an excuse to go to the Stone company store in Pasadena and fill my growlers.

 

[chemman14]

Hey guys, I talked to enegren tonight and they said they could do a group buy for us. Is anyone still interested? I know I would be down for at least 6 sacks

 

[Cromwell]

I'd buy 2 sacks! Thanks for doing this!

 

[chemman14]

I emailed them for a price list. I will let you know what they say

 

[Jmarsh544]

I'm in for a few sacks for sure.


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[invictusbrew]

I may be interested in a few sacks depending on the price, I'm a good hour to an hour and a half or so South of TO, so it may or may not work out for me, but I sure would like it to!

 

[krazydave]

I still have a load from my last bulk buy, but I'd be in for a sack if white wheat.

 

[chemman14]

Unfortunately the guys at enegren said they dont have a price list? Not sure why they dont have a list but it may be a flying blind thing I guess? I am not sure how it would work. Does anyone on here have a brewers supply group price list?

 

[Patirck]

I'm all for saving money but I think doing a group buy for sacks of grain may be more hassle than its worth if your near Thousand Oaks - there are two brew stores in Simi Valley (about 2 miles from Enegren). now. I have bought sacks of grain from Homebrew express a few times now - 2 row and pilsner were both $40-$45 and he had them on hand when I stopped by. If you want something special - different brand or whatever, I'm sure he would be willing to accommodate.

 

[chemman14]

I'm all for saving money but I think doing a group buy for sacks of grain may be more hassle than its worth if your near Thousand Oaks - there are two brew stores in Simi Valley (about 2 miles from Enegren). now. I have bought sacks of grain from Homebrew express a few times now - 2 row and pilsner were both $40-$45 and he had them on hand when I stopped by. If you want something special - different brand or whatever, I'm sure he would be willing to accommodate.

I am guessing the price would be around $30 for a sack of two row. To me, that savings is worth it if you can make it happen.

 

[Jmarsh544]

Do we know who their supplier is? We may be able to wrestle up a price list from another source, but still buy through them.


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[chemman14]

Do we know who their supplier is? We may be able to wrestle up a price list from another source, but still buy through them.


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Yes, it is BSG or brewers supply group. He said the shipping cost is 106.97/per pallet.

 

[Cromwell]

There's 40 sacks of grain on a pallet.
And how many sacks do we think people here are signing up for?
Do I assume correctly we'd have to come up with a full pallet to make it the least burdensome for Enegren?
I don't think we have enough interest to total 40 sacks. Maybe we should count the interest as a first step?

I'd buy 3.

 

[chemman14]

There's 40 sacks of grain on a pallet.
And how many sacks do we think people here are signing up for?
Do I assume correctly we'd have to come up with a full pallet to make it the least burdensome for Enegren?
I don't think we have enough interest to total 40 sacks. Maybe we should count the interest as a first step?

I'd buy 3.

Yes,
We need to get a full pallet. I am down for at least 6 sacks. (grain is good for at least 2 years). I also have some people from the local homebrew club interested. So right now, we have 9 sacks. 31 left to go.