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I dunno why but I actually Laughed when he slapped her, like it just seemed all staged, it almost seems like parts are cut out.

I had 2 brothers growing up 7 years older then me if something happened no one fessed up we were lined up and dad got the canoe Orr out and we each got it till one let up. I remember tying to pad the pain with books or toilet paper when I knew it was gonna be coming, but it was futile it never worked.

Then I got the ultimate punishment, I was going into 9th grade, and my dad upset me in the lowes parking lot I said "F%^#$ You Go To Hell" gave him the middle finger and started walking away. He drove off to a sight he could keep an eye on me (scared the S out of me cuz I thought he had really drove off). A few weeks later I was sent to a Military school.
 
OK I just love this image;

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I believe spankings can be a useful tool when used rarely and approriately, but too often it's used as a first tool and that is not good. Also, some kids will never repsond to spankings. That is just the way they are. Most of them have psychological problems, or chemical imbalances, and can be helped with counseling and medication.

The best you can so is constantly show them you love them, and break out the beating when you NEED to. beyond that, God help you.

Oh, and if you dont' have kids and have formed a plan for how to raise them when you do have them? Good luck. It's a whole new season, as they say.
 
I have a seven year old step son who suffered brain damage when he was born and has been diagnosed as ADHD. I only spank him when he is disrespectful or puts himself in great danger. The only form of timeout I have ever used is the "face-in-the-corner" timeout. There is nothing like starring at the wall with your nose in the corner for ten to fifteen minutes. He laughs at the BS timeouts. Which equals disrespect.. which equals spanking. His choice.

My daughter is almost two. Who knows, maybe the same strategy will not work for her. Every kid is different.
 
Ahh the ever popular nose in the corner.. I kind of just let my imagination go crazy when my parents did that to me.
 
While SWMBO and I don't have kids yet, we both were raised in an environment where if you do something bad, you get a spanking. We have our quirks, and I may have a negative point of view on some things (I blame that on inheriting it from my dad :)) but from what I have seen among all my friends, classmates, and other people in our age group (~25ish) we are probably some of the more well adjusted and successful people we know.

However, there is a downfall to discipline. I got away with my fair share of mischief, probably more than I should have... I also grew up home schooled, and knew a lot of home schooled kids. I quickly became the black sheep and the kid that other parents told their kids to stay away from. These kids were so disciplined that they were like little robots, and their parents would always put us down for having a free will and our own thoughts...

I got an update about a month ago from my mom about alot of these kids who's parents thought I was a bad influence. As soon as they left home they did not know how to do anything unless they were told to, so as a result they ended up drugged up, pregnant at 18, unemployed, flunking out of colleges, etc. etc. etc. Its kinda sad, but a part of me is still kinda happy after being looked down on so blatantly growing up....
 
I was raised by hippies and the kind of kid that was terrified of getting talked to by the playground teacher in elementary school(I seriously cried more than once), but that kid needs to be punched in the neck.
 
I got an update about a month ago from my mom about alot of these kids who's parents thought I was a bad influence. As soon as they left home they did not know how to do anything unless they were told to, so as a result they ended up drugged up, pregnant at 18, unemployed, flunking out of colleges, etc. etc. etc. Its kinda sad, but a part of me is still kinda happy after being looked down on so blatantly growing up....

It's so hard to find a pattern in these kinds of anectodotal examples though. I was on a moderate leash as a teen. I was disciplined via non-violent punishment 95% of the time and only a few times did my father lose his cool with a little open hand attitude adjustment. IMHO, I'm well adjusted, happy and successful.

My best friend through middle school and a few years on from there was not reigned in as much from day to day but regularly got his ass whipped when he got out of control. He ended up dropping out of HS, becoming a cokehead and commited suicide before he turned 21.

Seems like an exactly opposite correlation.
 
It's so hard to find a pattern in these kinds of anectodotal examples though. I was on a moderate leash as a teen. I was disciplined via non-violent punishment 95% of the time and only a few times did my father lose his cool with a little open hand attitude adjustment. IMHO, I'm well adjusted, happy and successful.

My best friend through middle school and a few years on from there was not reigned in as much from day to day but regularly got his ass whipped when he got out of control. He ended up dropping out of HS, becoming a cokehead and commited suicide before he turned 21.

Seems like an exactly opposite correlation.

I didn't want to stir up a big debate earlier but Bobby just hit the nail on the head. I could write up 20 more examples falling right in line with Bobby's.

I think parenting can be attacked from different directions and it’s all in how you do it. We do not spank or physically attack our children and they are both good kids. You might say a good smack now and then keeps them in line, but I will not use violence to deter violence or any other bad behavior, when you do, you become the biggest hypocrite in the world.

Besides the fact "spanking" and other similar forms of dicipline are becoming a thing of the past. As more states are now proposing bills to ban spanking all together.
 
Besides the fact "spanking" and other similar forms of dicipline are becoming a thing of the past. As more states are now proposing bills to ban spanking all together.

Yes, and the kids are gettign nicer and nicer because of it...

Bobby's example could be completely unrelated cause and effect. He also mentions "regularly", which indicates that the kid in question has (had) problems that required different methods. Likely he was not happy, and did not feel love. These are important things to a child growing up.

It's just how you discipline your kids, but how you treat them when you are not disciplining them. Likewise, sometimes the other methods of punishment can cause as much emotional trauma.
 
Kids also need a role model too- The more they want to be like someone successful the better they tend to grow. Kids used to look up to thier parents and respect their dad put his ass on long hours just so the kid had everything he needed.


I know I did.
 
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