This is losely brewing related, but a question.

[marc1]

good idea! it will be plugged into my kitchen socket, which i believe is hooked up to the GFCI one next to it?

You can push the test button on it and confirm that the other outlet got turned off.

 

[marc1]

Also, this thread has been a very enjoyable read, designing and troubleshooting a weird dryer modification!

 

[bracconiere]

Oh yeah, I know where I'm coming if I ever find myself with some extra sprouted grain !

if you ever get into malting, the bucket/storage tote to bucket, works...but if you can get a cheap used dryer...this thing really cleans the malt good! it'd be nice if it had a bigger lint trap though. have to stop the dryer and empty it about 3-4 times during the rolling....but it's some of the cleanest malt i've made! the batteries are dead in my camera AGAIN, i think i got two pics with these rechargeable ones....lol when i figure out how to get the side panel with the switch and power cord back together, i'll post what i ended up with...

 

[bracconiere]

Also, this thread has been a very enjoyable read, designing and troubleshooting a weird dryer modification!

i'll try and post all the stuff i had to do to turn it into a deculmer when it's 100% complete....i did have to pull the back SS vent from the drum, and reatach it with SS screen door screen under it....(but really if i knew how to hook up a 220v dryer to a 120v cord in the first place, i think this would have been 2-3 posts! )

 

[Homebrew Harry]

Also, this thread has been a very enjoyable read, designing and troubleshooting a weird dryer modification!

I agree...Hats off to Brac for making it happen and Kart for tech support !
There were a few times I wanted to chime in on the wiring, but did not want to step on any toes.
Good thread indeed

 

[kartracer2]

.(but really if i knew how to hook up a 220v dryer to a 120v cord in the first place, i think this would have been 2-3 posts! )

HA HA hahahaaa, no offense buddy but yeah, I would tend to agree!! Think of the lessons though, you should be a wiser man today than before you started,,, RIGHT? (LMAO)

@Homebrew Harry Hey, don't worry about my toes, I have used both the tops and the bottoms most my life. When you are "McGyver-ing", there are many different ways to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. (LOL)

Cheers,
Joel B.
P.S. Waiting for the big brown truck with a shipment of home made "CBW" from @bracconiere (LMAO,, just kidding)

 

[bracconiere]

I agree...Hats off to Brac for making it happen and Kart for tech support !
There were a few times I wanted to chime in on the wiring, but did not want to step on any toes.
Good thread indeed

if anyone ever needs how to hot-wire a dryer, for an emergency sesh....now google will know where to point them!

speaking of which... @kartracer2 i didn't actually learn my lesson though? so would i have hooked the 120v cord to the middle and top or bottom? of a three prong hook up?

 

[kartracer2]

@bracconiere In you particular situation see the attached photo. It may or may not apply to any other dryer you find. That's where a wiring diagram is important. You can tell from the actual wiring (following the paths) if you know what to look for also.

As far as lessons, I was referencing to centrifugal motor switches and the like. I'm not scolding you for tearing ass in to your dryer, I'm not that way.
Referring back to my dad, he believed that it was more important to understand how and why things work. Only then, can you find the problem when they are not.

Cheers,
Joel B.

 

[bracconiere]

@bracconiere In you particular situation see the attached photo. It may or may not apply to any other dryer you find. That's where a wiring diagram is important. You can tell from the actual wiring (following the paths) if you know what to look for also.
View attachment 748514

As far as lessons, I was referencing to centrifugal motor switches and the like. I'm not scolding you for tearing ass in to your dryer, I'm not that way.
Referring back to my dad, he believed that it was more important to understand how and why things work. Only then, can you find the problem when they are not.

Cheers,
Joel B.

LOLOLOL.....so that's all i would of had to done? let me laugh harder!!! but what the hell had a LOT of fun!!! and it works....never would have learned about jumping a ac motor with fake 3 phase? i think that's what the start coil does right? kinda like hitting the nitrous in a hollywood car race?

 

[kartracer2]

jumping a ac motor with fake 3 phase? i think that's what the start coil does right? kinda like hitting the nitrous in a hollywood car race?

LOL,, not really. Maybe the start coil you are thinking about might be a capacitor start motor, a different animal. Not going to get into those at this point.
We just bypassed the broken start switch, (and every thing else), no witch craft or fake 3ph. involved. (LOL)
Cheers,
Joel B.

 

[bracconiere]

kinda anti climatic, but after 5 pages....that's the result!

 

[kartracer2]

Cheers!!
Joel B.

 

[kartracer2]

Hey @bracconiere , I got to thinking that I would strongly recommend using something like this where your yellow cable enters the dryer. Should be able to find one at any local hardware store. (Ace, Do It Best, Home Depot, etc.) Would hate to see the vibration rubbing through the insulation and causing a short. Just thinking of safety and all.


Cheers,
Joel B.

 

[bracconiere]

Would hate to see the vibration rubbing through the insulation and causing a short. Just thinking of safety and all.

wouldn't have thought about slow cutting force.....do they make a rubber grommet i don't have to take the thing apart to install? as you can see i still didn't really get it BACK together all that well already....but it does work...

 

[IslandLizard]

Hey @bracconiere , I got to thinking that I would strongly recommend using something like this where your yellow cable enters the dryer. Should be able to find one at any local hardware store. (Ace, Do It Best, Home Depot, etc.) Would hate to see the vibration rubbing through the insulation and causing a short. Just thinking of safety and all.
View attachment 748652

Cheers,
Joel B.

I was just gonna mention it seeing the yellow wire coming out like that!

Or in a pinch, as a temporary workaround, but a thick layer of tape around the wire where it goes through the metal sheeting. And some extra on the inside as a "stress relief."

Regardless, make sure that dryer cabinet is indeed properly grounded!

 

[bracconiere]

what about one of these? i can just cut it, then push it in? it's a half inch hole...so 12mm should be close enough?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1845427176...tw_HBggVYR4hQXsh0XtUAlS_GJqGw37hoCauIQAvD_BwE

 

[kartracer2]

Ha, was just going to reply and good ol' @IslandLizard beat me to it.
The strain relief was just important as guarding against chafing/cutting the cable. But as always, what you chose to do is up to you @bracconiere . Just thinking of you buddy!!
Cheers,
Joel B.

 

[bracconiere]

Just thinking of you buddy!!

appreciate it! i only have one house, and no money to replace it!

at worst, now i know to pull the cord out before each use, and inspect it, then push it back in.....it's a thick cord, so it's not going to fray in the 20-30 minutes of use each time.....

 

[kartracer2]

Well you could tie a knot in the cord inside the dryer or a zip tie wrapped around the cord a couple of times then zip it real tight so it doesn't pull out. I have done that but the hole was rounded over (no sharp edges). And yeah, tape the hell out of it if you don't use the proper clamp.
Cheers,
Joel B.

 

[bracconiere]

Well you could tie a knot in the cord inside the dryer or a zip tie wrapped around the cord a couple of times then zip it real tight so it doesn't pull out. I have done that but the hole was rounded over (no sharp edges). And yeah, tape the hell out of it if you don't use the proper clamp.
Cheers,
Joel B.

i did zip tie it inside, i was worried if it was "loose" () it would get caught in the drive belt, and yanked out......but it's got a bit of slack, what do you think of the 1/2" rubber grommet? should help keep water out too, it's out back on the covered deck....

 

[kartracer2]

Sure you can use a grommet, any thing is better than nothing.

 

[IslandLizard]

do they make a rubber grommet i don't have to take the thing apart to install?

Using a rubber grommet you'd still need to feed the wire through it, same as with the box connector. It's a real pain when you forget to do that.

Besides, you'd also need to widen the hole to 3/4" to fit the box connector. I don't think they come any smaller, or I've ever used.

Maybe at this point, using the tape, as I suggested above is the best way to protect the wire right now.

I like the zip tie idea, together with the tape it should protect that area from chafing and pulling stress.
I would never put a knot in an electrical wire or cable if I can help it.

 

[bracconiere]

i ordered some grommets from china.....12mm OD, 7.5 ID should just push into the hole, if i cut the grommet with scissors, and pop the cord into it....

 

[IslandLizard]

Sure you can use a grommet, any thing is better than nothing.

Depends on how sharp that hole is. Silicone is not the most cut resistant but better than nothing.

How about putting a piece of silicone (or vinyl) hose over the cable, where it goes through the cabinet. Cut a 2-3" piece off and slice it lengthwise (once) so you can slip it over the cable. Tape around the piece of hose, on each side of the hole, to prevent it from opening or moving.

Electrical tape or even packing tape is pretty tough.

 

[kartracer2]

As always here are many ways to skin a cat. The big problem is finding the one the cat agrees with (LOL).
The hose/zip tie trick will work just fine too
Oh and FYI a 1/2" k.o. is closer to 7/8".
Cheers,
Joel B.

 

[bracconiere]

i'll post a new pic when i get the grommets from china in middle of jan....lol

it is plugged, or when in use anyway, both surge protector, and GFCI outlet.....(thanks for the thought to actually use the test button @marc1 ! never thought i'd have a reason to 'test' one of these things 'on purpose'!!! )