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Paging @grampamark. He's in the grain-production business. He might have some thoughts on this market.

iirc, he has stated that barley production for brewing is a tiny portion of overall grain production in the USA. I have no reason to doubt his viewpoint...

Cheers!

[edit] Looking at average annual crop production across a five year slice from 2015 through 2019:

Corn: 14 billion bushels
Soybeans: 4 billion bushels
Wheat (all kinds): 1.8 billion bushels
Barley: 160 million bushels
Oats: 53 million bushels

So barley is ~two orders of magnitude smaller than corn and one order below wheat...

Cheers!
 
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iirc, he has stated that barley production for brewing is a tiny portion of overall grain production in the USA. I have no reason to doubt his viewpoint...

Cheers!

[edit] Looking at average annual crop production across a five year slice from 2015 through 2019:

Corn: 14 billion bushels
Soybeans: 4 billion bushels
Wheat (all kinds): 1.8 billion bushels
Barley: 160 million bushels
Oats: 53 million bushels

So barley is ~two orders of magnitude smaller than corn and one order below wheat...

Cheers!

lol
I think we were talking about the dynamics within the barley market (and how it may affect prices we're seeing), not its market share vs other grains.
 
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I think we were talking about the dynamics within the barley market (and how it may affect prices we're seeing), not its market share vs other grains.


that's what i wanted to know, i think InBev is trying to discourage homebrewing, by trying to prove "the other homebrewers" that like saying making your own isn't cheaper, and keep others on BMC.....

edit: i'm pretty sure they fought against it being even legal.....
 
Well, ok, but there's only so much land to service the different markets, and I'm betting growers tend to move towards the most viable markets when deciding what to plant...

Cheers!
 
Well, ok, but there's only so much land to service the different markets, and I'm betting growers tend to move towards the most viable markets when deciding what to plant...

Cheers!


took the words right out of grampamark's mouth. but i still think inbev is manipulating the market. they wouldn't have gotten into NB, then out, i think they just found a better way. i'm curious how their doing it?

trying to get a thick one of these...made out of aluminum!
 

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I honestly think the whole Northern Brewer acquisition by "ZX Ventures" was an epic screw-up that didn't take long for them to realize.
They had literally no business being in that business. Zero. Huge mistake...

Cheers!
 
Anyone know if InBev bought any big maltsters or anything?

They've been malting their own grain for a long time. I thought they used to malt it right at the breweries, but perhaps that has changed. This is from Jess Newman ABInBev Director of US agronomy:

“We are highly vertically integrated into agriculture,” she says. “We breed our own barley varieties, we direct contract our own seed, and bring it into our own seed facilities. We own grain elevators in three different states and malt plants in two states, and we brew our own beer and take it to consumers. It’s a complete ‘seed to sip’ process.”

Source:
https://www.greenamerica.org/story/anheuser-busch
If you want to bring down the cost of a batch of beer, buy some adjuncts that are cheaper than malted barley, like rice or corn.
I think you can still brew 10 gallons for less than $20 of ingredients.
 
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They've been malting their own grain for a long time. I thought they used to malt it right at the breweries, but perhaps that has changed. This is from Jess Newman ABInBev Director of US agronomy:

“We are highly vertically integrated into agriculture,” she says. “We breed our own barley varieties, we direct contract our own seed, and bring it into our own seed facilities. We own grain elevators in three different states and malt plants in two states, and we brew our own beer and take it to consumers. It’s a complete ‘seed to sip’ process.”

Source:
https://www.greenamerica.org/story/anheuser-busch

Learn something new every day!

@day_trippr I was looking at that annual report as well and was left with more questions than answers after looking through about 50 pages.
 
Right? It's like they had someone with a phd in "obfuscation" edit the one I saw (think it was fy2020).

Anyway...It would be smart of AB to have enough silo capacity to provide significant elasticity for dealing with seasonal or even annual yield issues while servicing their alleged malting facilities (the existence of which I only have that statement - I can't find a single sign of such an endeavor anywhere else).

Otherwise, that article reads like AB controls the seed genetics but entirely contracts out the growing/harvesting...

Cheers!
 
I honestly think the whole Northern Brewer acquisition by "ZX Ventures" was an epic screw-up that didn't take long for them to realize.
They had literally no business being in that business. Zero. Huge mistake...

Cheers!

i think i'm king crazy, and when they bought Miller/Coors, and had me decide to learn to malt my own. They backed off even trying to cut me off from malt.....but now they're trying to jack up the price. "Never Give Up, Never Surrender!" i'll keep fighting the good fight till i die from it, whatever the cause works out to be! :mug:

I think you can still brew 10 gallons for less than $20 of ingredients.

yeah i think a 20lb bag of white rice is still $8 at walmart, but none of the garden stores carry 50lb bales of rice hulls here....and sparging 20lbs of white rice takes a bucket full of hulls! lol

i know how to make cheap "ethanol"! but i like my beer. and i got back into the habbit of buying malt, then the price skyrocketed! irked me....
 
They could be working with Monsanto. Point being I don't think they do growing directly...


yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they tried getting the sole barley patent....but Genetic moding stuff isn't much harder then some enzymes, and some viruses/vectors they call them, at least from my memory when i was looking into doing myself at home, i ended up thinking "i could do this"....monsanto isn't Dr. (only) Mega Evil
 
Paging @grampamark. He's in the grain-production business. He might have some thoughts on this market.
You rang?

AB has contracted with barley growers in a particular region of MT, specifically the high plains just East of the Rocky Mountain front, for decades. I haven’t heard any reports this year, but in the last 2 years, the number of contracted acres was cut 25% in each year. So, they’re only buying half of what they were a couple of years ago, at least on a contract basis. Supposedly they’re using more extract (rice syrup) and less barley. Whether related to InBev’s reduction in acres, or not, the price of barley has gone into the toilet in the last 2 years. This spring there were no malt contracts being offered by any of the grain merchandisers and the spot (uncontracted) market price for malting barley is the same as feed barley, about $4.50 per cwt (hundred pounds). That’s about half of what would make growing malt barley an attractive alternative to other crops.

As noted above, barley is a minor crop, but that’s only part of the story. The production numbers are for all barley, not just malt barley. It’s hard to determine just how much barley makes it‘s way into beer because the number of contracted acres is proprietary and the brewers and maltsters don’t generally release that info. The numbers which are available come from the planted acreage and production reports which producers who participate in farm programs submit to USDA each year. On those reports, barley is barley; there is no info on usage. I’ll attach a couple of maps, courtesy of the American Malting Barley Association, one which shows the distribution of all barley production, and one which shows the percentage of contracted production of the various varieties in the region which produces the bulk of the barley in the US. It’s pretty obvious that most of the barley is grown in just a few states.

Of course, there are a lot of other fermentables besides barley, and several of those are used liberally in the commercial brewing processes. Total beer production in the US last year was reported, by the Brewers Association, as just over 186MM barrels or about 5.7 billion gallons. Using a rough number of 2lbs of fermentables per gallon of 1.050 beer that would require about 11.5 billion lbs of fermentables. All barley production, in pounds, would be a bit under 8 billion lbs, so that gives some idea of how much corn, rice, extract, etc, gets used in the beer business.

As far as InBev trying to corner the barley market-well, enjoy the conspiracy theories. Monsanto? They don’t exist any more; sold to Bayer AG in 2018. When they did exist, they discovered that, unlike corn, soybeans, alfalfa, and the various other crops which were genetically modified to be glyphosate resistant, cereals like wheat and barley are much more complex, genetically, and attempts to create GMO varieties of those crops were not successful. InBev just wants to make lots of beer, as cheaply as possible, with as much margin as possible. The apparent move towards more adjuncts and extracts indicates, to me, that they’ve figured out how to make cheap swill even more cheaply, and to hell with the barley growers who depended on those contract acres for the last 3 generations.

Aren’t you glad @MaxStout asked? ;)
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wait... they grow 2000 acres of barley in my state/county?
 
Anyway...It would be smart of AB to have enough silo capacity to provide significant elasticity for dealing with seasonal or even annual yield issues while servicing their alleged malting facilities (the existence of which I only have that statement - I can't find a single sign of such an endeavor anywhere else).

Otherwise, that article reads like AB controls the seed genetics but entirely contracts out the growing/harvesting...

Cheers!

At least some of their malting occurs in Idaho:
https://www.agron.iastate.edu/tags/anheuser-busch
A little more hunting reveals that they have two malting facilities and even their own hop farm:


Anheuser-Busch builds lasting relationships with American farmers
Anheuser-Busch has direct relationships with more than 1,000 farmers, many of whom have been our partners for many generations. We have 23 agricultural and packaging facilities throughout the country, including our own malthouses in Idaho Falls, Idaho, and Moorhead, Minnesota – both critical parts of our regional agribusiness supply chain.

Here's the full article, which is actually kind of interesting if you want to geek out on Mega-brewery vertical integration:
https://www.anheuser-busch.com/community/initiative/our-farmers.html
According to the above, AB spends $5.5 billion growing their own hops and buying grain directly from farmers and then spends about $300 million buying from third party suppliers.
I used to be in an industry where large companies tried to screw their suppliers in every way possible to make a few bucks, so its interesting that a gigantic business actually works with suppliers and has relationships that have lasted over several generations.


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Dave Taylor
US Chief Supply Officer for Anheuser-Busch
“We are committed to protecting peoples’ livelihoods across our entire supply chain – from farmers and bartenders to truck drivers and team members in our own facilities,” said Dave Taylor, U.S. Chief Supply Officer at Anheuser-Busch. “As the only brewer and alcohol manufacturer that can make an impact of this magnitude, we take this responsibility seriously. We know that when our communities get stronger, our country gets stronger, and that’s a step towards recovery. By investing in these communities and their capabilities, we’re ensuring that together, with all of our partners, we can brew and deliver great beer for many years to come.”


So after all this, now I'm thinking I'll stop on the way home from work and load up on Michelob Bock and Bud Light Clam-a Rita. Perhaps I can find some dusty bottles of Goose Island "Sofie" (AB owns Goose Island these days?)
I've got all day to talk myself out of it.....
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Didn't read the whole thread closely beyond a scan. But I recall MaltEurop being a big barley supplier for the macro brewers, but only recently (last few years) being available to even craft brewers. Dunno if they've even hit the homebrew market at all. Presuming that's the case, your homebrew shop probably isn't competing with big guys so probably not related.

Rather, I also recall the last couple years the North American malting barley crops underperformed. That is more likely the issue and that negatively affects everyone.
 
I think it's barley market driving prices. Drought in the plains states and plains provinces, as well as storms that lay the stalks down at inopportune times have impacted the North American crop which in turn impacts the global market.
 
$1.99 a pound for 'cheap' base malt now!


i don't think a foil hat's enough, going to need something more sturdy!

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