Them's fightin' words!

[ZmannR2]

Now, if you take an IPA, back off on the initial bittering additions a bit, and focus most of the hop additions as late additions or dry hop, then that's a different deal. I like hop flavor and aroma, (unless it's Mosaic!!), and those are the kinds of IPAs I like.
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Then you would love this:

 

[foam_top]

Well, the first time I had an IPA I didn't even know " I was supposed to like them." I just enjoyed it. But not every IPA I've had did I enjoy.
I drink beer the same way I select music - I like variety and my mood influences my choice.

 

[TimmyWit]

Love IPAs. I brew about 80% IPAs. All my friends love IPAs. We aren’t drinking them just because it’s a “trend”. That’s dumb

I don’t care for malty ass Brit beers

You do realize IPA has British origins?

 

[Knkbrand]

I want to know how the OP of that story thinks IPA's get you drunk faster. Or am I the only one that caught that BS line.

he was talking about a quintuple IPA. Typically as double IPA has between 7-9% abv, a triple has above 10% abv, so while I disagree with the author I think he was stating a quintuple IPA would have even more alcohol.

 

[jack13]

Sure, the article is totally misguided and the author profoundly douchey, but...damn forgot what else I was going to say.

 

[mongoose33]

Sure, the article is totally misguided and the author profoundly douchey, but...damn forgot what else I was going to say.

Let me guess....you were drinking a quintuple IPA.

 

[Baabaad00]

If you don't like malt, why not just boil hops in some water, add some everclear to the desired ABV, carbonate and drink? Maybe steep a little crystal for color (do hop-heads care about color?). Seams like a waste of time and money to mash, boil and ferment all that grain, just to completely overpower all flavors with hop oil.

I agree completely! If you like hops that much and want almost zero malt flavor, why not just do as you suggest? Seems easier than going through the difficulty of mashing all that grain just to suppress its flavor to essentially a hop tonic. Makes zero sense to me.

All in all, it's your money/time. I believe everyone has the right to not care what other people think.

Good political/social advice, don't enforce your opinion on others. Just provide an environment for people to do as they wish, as long as they aren't harming others.

All I am saying is: IPA's are gross and imbalanced. I see no point in making them. I've yet to meet a person in person who's said I love a good IPA. They've all said that I don't see the point in eating a pine tree. They all realize the imbalance the IPA flavor profile has, but it's yours to choose as you wish. I just don't see the point.

 

[jwalk4]

All I am saying is: IPA's are gross and imbalanced. I see no point in making them. I've yet to meet a person in person who's said I love a good IPA. They've all said that I don't see the point in eating a pine tree. They all realize the imbalance the IPA flavor profile has, but it's yours to choose as you wish. I just don't see the point.

Some like the icing, some like the cake. Most will agree that you need both for balance, but some people would scrap the pan for more icing. IPAs are no different.

IPAs are nice when done well. I dont need 200 ibus but i enjoy a hop punch every now and then.

I just wont be going out and getting a "Super Cascade" tramp stamp any time soon.

They are expensive to brew, though.

 

[cubalz]

Aren't those two claims mutually exclusive? Or do you make it for other people to drink?

The APA is malty and not over the top with bitterness. Ask Yooper.

 

[Gagunga]

It's the same argument against drinkers that enjoy BMC. But many IPA elitists don't have a problem putting those people down.

When it comes to personal preference...

 

[Baabaad00]

It's the same argument against drinkers that enjoy BMC. But many IPA elitists don't have a problem putting those people down.

I'm not putting people down. I've yet to criticize the people, I focus on the flavor profile. Big difference. Who cares? Don't we? I mean this is home>BREW<talk. Flavor profile is kinda a big deal, isn't it? It's what we brew for.

As for BMC, as I learn more about beer brewing, BMC impresses me with their consistency. I don't necessarily think they have the best influence on the beer industry as a whole, but I see no harm it people spending their money on a bunch of Bud/Miller/coors on a weekly basis, just as I don't see the problem with people spending their money on IPA's. I just think they both lack the flavor balance that I'd spend my money on.

The APA is malty and not over the top with bitterness. Ask Yooper.

fair enough

Some like the icing, some like the cake. Most will agree that you need both for balance, but some people would scrap the pan for more icing. IPAs are no different.

Agreed.

 

[Premnasbiaculeatus]

I think it's kind of like eating oysters.You can tell about half of the people eating them don't really like them, especially if they order a half dozen. The things are like 8 calories a piece, and people share them with a date and eat like 3 of them. If you like them eat a couple dozen why don't you? they are friggin delicious... It's all about getting points for being cool...

Personally I love IPAs, but I've drank some that are kind of f'ed up. In the 2000s there was a trend to win the battle for IBUs. Some very notable IPA's of that area I never really liked that much. Pure astringency alone is not the hop's greatest feature, and I think High alpha acid low other stuff hops like Chinook, Centennial, and Northern brewer are best used sparingly and early in the boil. The best IPA's IMHO are citrus forward, rich, fruity, and aromatic. Personally I like to use Hops like Citra, Amarillo, and Nelson Sauvin, and finish things off with a F-ton of cascades. According to Tinseth My IBUs are way up there but they're bitter like a glass of grapefruit juice, not like a glass of mosquito repellent.

Obviously the guy writing the article is not super informed, he thinks "hoppy" is one specific flavor... but the vast majority of people drinking craft beer aren't really informed (or even interested) it's just a way to pretend to be classy. A lot of oyster drinkers out there...

 

[day_trippr]

[...]the vast majority of people drinking craft beer aren't really informed (or even interested) it's just a way to pretend to be classy. A lot of oyster drinkers out there...

 

[shoreman]

If anything IPAs especially the NE style have been much more approachable than the bitter bombs of the past. This guy is fully speculating here.

 

[Gagunga]

I'm not putting people down. I've yet to criticize the people, I focus on the flavor profile. Big difference. Who cares? Don't we? I mean this is home>BREW<talk. Flavor profile is kinda a big deal, isn't it? It's what we brew for.

As for BMC, as I learn more about beer brewing, BMC impresses me with their consistency. I don't necessarily think they have the best influence on the beer industry as a whole, but I see no harm it people spending their money on a bunch of Bud/Miller/coors on a weekly basis, just as I don't see the problem with people spending their money on IPA's. I just think they both lack the flavor balance that I'd spend my money on.

Then you aren't one of the 'many' and my comment wasn't directed toward you. If you're (in the general sense) saying "eww how could you drink [insert tired over-used piss water joke about BMC]" aren't you in a way making a jab at the drinker's flavor profile expertise?

I have seen plenty of jabs at BMC and its drinkers on this forum by elitists. But you're right, that's OK! That's the beauty of having a forum. I am just pointing out the irony of this particular situation. I love ironies.

NOTE: This comment was not paid for by Budweiser.

 

[jack13]

I love oysters, but usually only eat a few because they are so ******* expensive (and I'm kinda cheap). Unless I happen to catch a buck-a-schuck!

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I too love raw Oysters. But have to stop at a half dozen or I get sick.

 

[Premnasbiaculeatus]

Present company obviously excluded from this gross over generaliztion. I'm talking about 'drinkers' and not 'hobbyists'. 90+ % of anyone sitting down at a local neighborhood brewery with either a baby or a golden retreiver by their side (including myself in the <10%) won't have ever heard of things like isohumulone, or myrecene. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

 

[iijakii]

You do realize IPA has British origins?

Yeah, and then we made them totally awesome.

 

[Premnasbiaculeatus]

I love oysters, but usually only eat a few because they are so ******* expensive (and I'm kinda cheap). Unless I happen to catch a buck-a-schuck!

My standing record is 108 in one sitting. $30 Dollar all-you-can-eat oyster Buffet in Tillman Island MD. 27 cents per oyster, and they were legit C. virginica; Chincoteagues.

 

[BudBernerBrewer]

When the sailors returned and said where can I find a good beer like on the ship? Were they "faking" liking a hoppier style. Prolly not

 

[Devin]

why not just boil hops in some water,

LOL I like this thread. It's like a Ford/Chevy discussion.

Actually, I do that. I like some hop tea from time to time.

Although I am a "hophead" (the whole reason I got into brewing was because I kept finding myself wishing that I could get more hop flavor injected into whatever I was drinking), I enjoy many styles of beer. But, my favorite style by a long shot is AIPA.

Chevy sucks, BTW.

 

[Scturo]

I totally agree 100%, raw oysters are delicious. SWMBO won't eat them raw, so I have to grill them for her, also awesome with lemon and hot sauce.

 

[BudBernerBrewer]

When I moved from cali to colo I felt like a sailor "where is the beer I like" ...west coast hop...fat tire won by default. You could find it everywhere. When I went back to visit buddies, they said look what have we have for you....fat tire...wtf I prefer some lauganitas ipa from peteluma haha

 

[catdaddy66]

Stupid article begets stupid thread.
Perfectly predictable...

Cheers!

I wasn't making a call for either side of the argument as I like several IPA's and find others lacking. I knew there would be strong opinions on both sides but posted it because I found it freaking hilarious!

Stupid is as stupid does...

 

[Gagunga]

My standing record is 108 in one sitting. $30 Dollar all-you-can-eat oyster Buffet in Tillman Island MD. 27 cents per oyster, and they were legit C. virginica; Chincoteagues.

It's a standing record because you put them out of business, right?

Give me vinegar and fresh chives and I shall challenge you to an oyster duel!

 

[ZmannR2]

You do realize IPA has British origins?

Pretty sure everyone knows where the name IPA came from.

But Americans perfected it

 

[ZmannR2]

. I've yet to meet a person in person who's said I love a good IPA.

Can I ask a question without you being offended? Are you over 50 years old? Because I&#8217;m 35 and I&#8217;m not kidding, I know maybe 1 of my good buddies (roughly 15 dudes) who does not LOVE IPAs. I&#8217;m wondering if it&#8217;s a generational thing. Because most tap rooms I go to, they selll the hell outta IPAs. Yet everyone my dads age and older, hates them

 

[ZmannR2]

It's a standing record because you put them out of business, right?

Give me vinegar and fresh chives and I shall challenge you to an oyster duel!

On a cracker with cocktail sauce and tobasco!! Omg I can eat till my wallet runs dry

 

[FloppyKnockers]

Whatever. Some people don't like bacon. Not everybody can have good taste.