The WI Thread: FIBs stay the **** out

[sherm10161]

Hometown Blonde is such a good beer. Paying Thumbprint prices stings a little bit, but not enough to stop me from buying it.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

Hometown Blonde is such a good beer. Paying Thumbprint prices stings a little bit, but not enough to stop me from buying it.

Amen, purchased a case of it myself this weekend while visiting for the bottle release on Saturday morning.

Another smooth release at New Glarus, and Deb and Dan Carey remain two of the best people in this industry. Both of them walked the line in the morning to shake hands and personally thank everyone for coming out. Loved listening to Dan's explanation of the beer and what to expect from it now and in the future.

Spent entirely too much money on Hometown Blonde, Staghorn and various R&D beers, but totally worth it.

 

[sherm10161]

Another smooth release at New Glarus, and Deb and Dan Carey remain two of the best people in this industry. Both of them walked the line in the morning to shake hands and personally thank everyone for coming out. Loved listening to Dan's explanation of the beer and what to expect from it now and in the future.

The fact that they did both of these things (shaking everyone's hand and giving the full explanation of the beer) on both Friday and Saturday really shows how much they care, and I wholeheartedly agree that they are two of the best people in the industry. We can only hope that the employee-owners of the brewery can keep this up after Dan and Deb are gone.

 

[elkhunter36]

FunkFactory Geuzeria‏ @FFGeuzeria
We received 950+ lbs of black raspberries and turned the brewery into a blood bank. #framzwart

 

[danbanana]

blood bank.

What the **** kind of "blood bank" have these people been to?? One run by ******* vampires?

 

[furley]

What the **** kind of "blood bank" have these people been to?? One run by ******* vampires?

 

[elkhunter36]

Per Levi, upcoming FF bottles:

Yes, upcoming bottle releases are of Meerts variants.
Peach & Pluot
Mango & Passionfruit
Cranberry
Cherry

We also have Cherry Meerts resting in an Apple Brandy barrel. Not sure if we'll bottle this or just keg it all for the taproom?

In bottles we have Moerbei - Punchdown (mulberry). This will be taproom only sometime early next year.

Frampaars and Framzwart are on fruit as well as a couple punchdown versions. To clarify, "Framzwart" is black raspberries and "Framzwartje" is black cap raspberries.

We have Cervino 2017 - Gewurztraminer fermenting right now and should be ready in a month. Sangiovese grapes are coming for a red 2017 version.

Funny you mention honey beer. While tasting through the barrels stock, we found a couple MT barrels that our immediate thought went to honey beer. So that is a real possibility and maybe soon. We will probably also do a MT3 blend this winter as well as some small batch blends of barrels we're excited about.

And we're about ready to announce our Magnum Club. It'll be offered to T100 first and then open to the public.

 

[GoodDon]

Per Levi, upcoming FF bottles:

Yes, upcoming bottle releases are of Meerts variants.
Peach & Pluot
Mango & Passionfruit
Cranberry
Cherry

We also have Cherry Meerts resting in an Apple Brandy barrel. Not sure if we'll bottle this or just keg it all for the taproom?

In bottles we have Moerbei - Punchdown (mulberry). This will be taproom only sometime early next year.

Frampaars and Framzwart are on fruit as well as a couple punchdown versions. To clarify, "Framzwart" is black raspberries and "Framzwartje" is black cap raspberries.

We have Cervino 2017 - Gewurztraminer fermenting right now and should be ready in a month. Sangiovese grapes are coming for a red 2017 version.

Funny you mention honey beer. While tasting through the barrels stock, we found a couple MT barrels that our immediate thought went to honey beer. So that is a real possibility and maybe soon. We will probably also do a MT3 blend this winter as well as some small batch blends of barrels we're excited about.

And we're about ready to announce our Magnum Club. It'll be offered to T100 first and then open to the public.

Making my first visit tomorrow. Can't wait.

 

[sherm10161]

To clarify, "Framzwart" is black raspberries and "Framzwartje" is black cap raspberries.

Maybe I'm an idiot (and I'm sure some would say that I most certainly am), but my Google skills can't seem to differentiate between black raspberry and black cap raspberry.

Does anyone have something they can point to in order to differentiate the two?

 

[elkhunter36]

Maybe I'm an idiot (and I'm sure some would say that I most certainly am), but my Google skills can't seem to differentiate between black raspberry and black cap raspberry.

Does anyone have something they can point to in order to differentiate the two?

According to wikipedia:
Rubus occidentalis is a species of Rubus native to eastern North America. Its common name black raspberry is shared with the closely related western American species Rubus leucodermis. Other names occasionally used include wild black raspberry, black caps, black cap raspberry, thimbleberry,[2][3] and scotch cap.[4]


You can purchase commercially grown black raspberries in bulk. The wild black raspberries in Framzwartje were picked by hand. Just a guess but that's probably the difference he is noting.


"Framzwartje is a very special project here at Funk Factory and may be the best beer we've ever had the chance to make. The project started when Forager Brewing told us they had managed to pick 80 lbs of wild blackcap raspberries. There is no commercial source for these berries. You literally have to forage them from the woods, and it take a lot of dedication to make up 80 lbs of these incredibly tiny berries. Our fruiting rate is 2lbs/gallon, so we hand selected a single barrel for this beer. The barrel we chose was an 18 month old Methode Lambic barrel."

 

[sherm10161]

According to wikipedia:
Rubus occidentalis is a species of Rubus native to eastern North America. Its common name black raspberry is shared with the closely related western American species Rubus leucodermis. Other names occasionally used include wild black raspberry, black caps, black cap raspberry, thimbleberry,[2][3] and scotch cap.[4]


You can purchase commercially grown black raspberries in bulk. The wild black raspberries in Framzwartje were picked by hand. Just a guess but that's probably the difference he is noting.


"Framzwartje is a very special project here at Funk Factory and may be the best beer we've ever had the chance to make. The project started when Forager Brewing told us they had managed to pick 80 lbs of wild blackcap raspberries. There is no commercial source for these berries. You literally have to forage them from the woods, and it take a lot of dedication to make up 80 lbs of these incredibly tiny berries. Our fruiting rate is 2lbs/gallon, so we hand selected a single barrel for this beer. The barrel we chose was an 18 month old Methode Lambic barrel."

That was my impression of the distinction between the two beers: hand-picked wild black [cap] raspberries versus commercially purchased black raspberries. At the end of the day, though, it's really the same fruit (Rubus occidentalis).

Thanks for confirming I'm not an idiot.

 

[sjstraub]

I do think they taste different, but I've never had them side by side. They certainly look different.

Black Caps are allegedly more tart than commercial black berries. They are also about half the size and have the same number of seeds as the larger ones. Think of them as an "heirloom" variety of the berry.

I've got black caps in my yard, but only enough to make a pie or so. And honestly, my kids eat so much of them that I probably couldn't even do that anymore.

 

[sherm10161]

I do think they taste different, but I've never had them side by side. They certainly look different.

Black Caps are allegedly more tart than commercial black berries. They are also about half the size and have the same number of seeds as the larger ones. Think of them as an "heirloom" variety of the berry.

I've got black caps in my yard, but only enough to make a pie or so. And honestly, my kids eat so much of them that I probably couldn't even do that anymore.

I don’t deny that the beers look or taste different.

I was just trying to confirm that are technically (biologically?) the same fruit, which it seems they are.

Different cultivars of any fruit are going to taste different, but they are still the fruit.

 

[BlackElixir]

Framzwartje was definitely the least acidic of the Fram- beers. It was much earthier and tannic (probably due to seed/skin to flesh ratio).

 

[SpentBrain]

Per Levi, upcoming FF bottles:

Yes, upcoming bottle releases are of Meerts variants.
Peach & Pluot
Mango & Passionfruit
Cranberry
Cherry

We also have Cherry Meerts resting in an Apple Brandy barrel. Not sure if we'll bottle this or just keg it all for the taproom?

In bottles we have Moerbei - Punchdown (mulberry). This will be taproom only sometime early next year.

Frampaars and Framzwart are on fruit as well as a couple punchdown versions. To clarify, "Framzwart" is black raspberries and "Framzwartje" is black cap raspberries.

We have Cervino 2017 - Gewurztraminer fermenting right now and should be ready in a month. Sangiovese grapes are coming for a red 2017 version.

Funny you mention honey beer. While tasting through the barrels stock, we found a couple MT barrels that our immediate thought went to honey beer. So that is a real possibility and maybe soon. We will probably also do a MT3 blend this winter as well as some small batch blends of barrels we're excited about.

And we're about ready to announce our Magnum Club. It'll be offered to T100 first and then open to the public.

I hope we see a Fox and Grapes again. Loved that beer.

Magnum Club will be awesome, really looking forward to that one.

 

[furley]

how many heading up for Central Waters River Run this saturday?

looks like they've pared back the guest tap list, opened up the even to the general public and Black Gold allocations are already sold out.

already reading a bit of upset about the event not being as good compared to past year's.

i, for one, hope the changes reduce the neckbeard overcrowding and subsequent outrage about..... everything.

 

[bigred1]

how many heading up for Central Waters River Run this saturday?

looks like they've pared back the guest tap list, opened up the even to the general public and Black Gold allocations are already sold out.

already reading a bit of upset about the event not being as good compared to past year's.

i, for one, hope the changes reduce the neckbeard overcrowding and subsequent outrage about..... everything.

I'll be heading.

I'm cool with all the BG being sold ahead of time, just wish they hadn't opened this up to the public. The event will never be better than last year, by only allowing those who won the lottery and/or signed up for the run CW kept the crowd at an absolute minimum. Black Gold flowed freely, and other than the first 15 minutes it went on tap you could just walk up and get a glass. Plenty of space to move around, plenty of barrels for shares - it was awesome.

 

[furley]

last year was pretty smooth. curious how packed it gets this year. weather should be fair enough anyways. cloudy but not cold. maybe a bit of light rain.

this is my favorite event (aside from the Great Taste) so really looking forward to it

 

[BurgerTime]

how many heading up for Central Waters River Run this saturday?

looks like they've pared back the guest tap list, opened up the even to the general public and Black Gold allocations are already sold out.

already reading a bit of upset about the event not being as good compared to past year's.

i, for one, hope the changes reduce the neckbeard overcrowding and subsequent outrage about..... everything.

See you all there! Will have family in tow for the first time-- doing the Falcon Fun Run and River Walk. Really hoping it's not too crowded.

 

[bigred1]

See you all there! Will have family in tow for the first time-- doing the Falcon Fun Run and River Walk. Really hoping it's not too crowded.

The run won't be crowded. I'm assuming you are aware per the email that you can't bring your kids into the beerfest?

 

[BurgerTime]

The run won't be crowded. I'm assuming you are aware per the email that you can't bring your kids into the beerfest?

Trenchcoat.

In the past, people (kids included) have kind of hung around out front. May do that for a bit while drinking a pour of BG and grabbing a bite to eat, but mostly just there for the run/walk and the BG pick-up.

 

[furley]

well, ****

"Rain early...then remaining cloudy with thundershowers developing in the afternoon. High 58F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%."

 

[levifunk1]

Yes, black cap raspberries are very different than black raspberries. If you view raspberries in a spectrum it would be fruity on one end and tannic on the other. Red raspberries are the fruitiest and least tannic. Purple raspberries have a good amount of fruitiness but have some tannic flavors as well. Black raspberries are far less fruity and carry a lot of tannins. Black-cap raspberries are black raspberries on tannin steroids. Earthy and savagely wild.

Black-cap raspberries are also not grown commercially. To get them, you have to literally forage them out of a forest.

 

[trickytunadicky]

Yes, black cap raspberries are very different than black raspberries. If you view raspberries in a spectrum it would be fruity on one end and tannic on the other. Red raspberries are the fruitiest and least tannic. Purple raspberries have a good amount of fruitiness but have some tannic flavors as well. Black raspberries are far less fruity and carry a lot of tannins. Black-cap raspberries are black raspberries on tannin steroids. Earthy and savagely wild.

Black-cap raspberries are also not grown commercially. To get them, you have to literally forage them out of a forest.

What about golden raspberries? Asking for a friend.

 

[levifunk1]

What about golden raspberries? Asking for a friend.

Golden Raspberries are weird. I still haven't fermented them in beer, but I grew up eating them. They were my favorite as a kid, and we planted some at the taproom. They are very very sweet and I'd guess you'd call them fruity, but not as much as reds. No tannins at all.

 

[furley]

See you all there! Will have family in tow for the first time-- doing the Falcon Fun Run and River Walk. Really hoping it's not too crowded.

UPDATE?

got there right as the kid's run started. didn't look too packed.

the 5 miler didn't seem bad either. pretty normal turnout. tent wasn't crowded at all. taproom was really wide open by comparison to past years.

bailed around 1, though. nobody i knew showed up. not sure if that says more about me or them.

 

[BurgerTime]

It was fun! My oldest daughter did the Falcon Fun Run and liked it. We all did the 2 mile River Walk/Run, which was great. It seemed less crowded than normal to me, though I was mostly out front trying to keep the kids occupied and warm. Weather kind of sucked and the kids weren't really into it so we left shortly before you did. I didn't even try for a BG pour, heard the line was super long.

I did see a lot of people asking locals if they could buy their 1 bottle of BG that came with the River Run registration. Smart I guess, but I kind of hate seeing people try to game the system all the time. Maybe CW could do 2 kinds of tickets in the future? One with BG and one without, make people pay up front for BG? Hate for CW to have to do more work for an otherwise great event, but in an ever-escalating war between shitlords and decency...

Let's meet up for a beer next time I'm up there. Brownpapertickets/lottery-willing I should be up there for the anniversary party.

 

[furley]

Let's meet up for a beer next time I'm up there. Brownpapertickets/lottery-willing I should be up there for the anniversary party.

for sure. i'm not sure if i'll be at the anniv party unless they change how the thing is ticketed. i forgot about it right on the button, checked 10 minutes after release and they were gone last year.

missed it for the first time since the 7th or 8th anniv.

 

[DannyFullpint]

Hi Guys, any hints on where I might be able to get bottles of Central Waters BBABW in Madison?

 

[sherm10161]

BBABW

What is this? Do you mean BBBW?