The Stasis - A glycol system designed for homebrewers - Pre-Order now for $599

[finished1]

The lower price was for pre-order only. That ended last week. We still haven't had an update on delivery. Was supposed to be on the 29th but no word as of yet.

was saving up for a glycol chiller. got onto their site today and the price has just been jacked up another $100 to $750. unbelievable. looks like I'm out- they made no mention of another price hike when I talked to them last week. maybe just add a cheap kegerator at this point.

 

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The lower price was for pre-order only. That ended last week. We still haven't had an update on delivery. Was supposed to be on the 29th but no word as of yet.

Per their website "*Expected delivery - March 2020" (https://craftabrew.com/products/the-stasis-glycol-chiller). So, its only March 3rd, what do you expect?

was saving up for a glycol chiller. got onto their site today and the price has just been jacked up another $100 to $750. unbelievable. looks like I'm out- they made no mention of another price hike when I talked to them last week. maybe just add a cheap kegerator at this point.

You can get a different unit from another manufacturer that is proven, has higher BTUs and is cheaper.

I like capitalism. Maybe the lack of future supply due to China's struggles warrants a 15.5% price increase. If people are willing to pay for it, great! Supply and demand....let the market decide. Though, I would have concern about future warranty demands as it sounds like there isn't much, if any, spare parts involving the kick starter. Hopefully, it performs as described.

 

[4TBBUCS]

The 15.5% increase you speak of, was what the retail was set to be, last year....$749. Early backers etc, were able to pick one up at $599, or in my case (late to the party) $659. Either way, they clearly informed everyone back in July, what the unit cost would retail for. Not sure where the confusion is coming from.

 

[WesBrew]

Per their website "*Expected delivery - March 2020" (https://craftabrew.com/products/the-stasis-glycol-chiller). So, its only March 3rd, what do you expect?



You can get a different unit from another manufacturer that is proven, has higher BTUs and is cheaper.
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Not sure what that one is . The ice master is the same. Others I’ve seen are higher and require you to pay extra for pumps and controllers to control fermentation. All of these things seem to be overpriced.

 

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Not sure what that one is . The ice master is the same. Others I’ve seen are higher and require you to pay extra for pumps and controllers to control fermentation. All of these things seem to be overpriced.

Then you have not been paying attention. I bought mine for $679.99 when MoreBeer had a sale June 2019. They had the same sale last December. Then, in December, they lowered it by accident by another $20.

Yep, you have to buy a pump and controller. Yep, it can chill down to 28F (that is the lowest I have chilled to in southern AZ). They are proven and have been on the market.

There has been 50% off sales last December on controllers as well. If you are comparing all the chillers on the market based upon a two pump configuration and ignore BTUs etc., it appears the Stasis may be a little cheaper. If price is your only consideration rather than known performance or quality, then Stasis should be your choice. Again, you may save a few dollars.

Personally, I wished I bought my chiller sooner. I understand your frustration and I hope you find what you are looking for.

 

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The 15.5% increase you speak of, was what the retail was set to be, last year....$749. Early backers etc, were able to pick one up at $599, or in my case (late to the party) $659. Either way, they clearly informed everyone back in July, what the unit cost would retail for. Not sure where the confusion is coming from.

I was responding to @WESBREW and calculated the math. It was he that was surprised and frustrated with the price increase. As I wrote, I think it is great they can increase pricing.

With that being said, I don't believe they gave dates or dollar amounts of when they planned to start increasing the pricing from $539. Maybe I missed something, maybe not. Do you have a link to that information?

 

[WesBrew]

With that being said, I don't believe they gave dates or dollar amounts of when they planned to start increasing the pricing from $539. Maybe I missed something, maybe not. Do you have a link to that information?

Yeah, I was emailing them questions last week about the unit and purchase options. a heads-up on price increase would have been nice. whatever, onward. was busy converting to electric brewery and fixing issues so I haven't been really looking until recently. I'll look out for sales. still could opt for a small upright freezer in the garage.

 

[Ontop27]

Personally that much for a chiller that only gets to 36 degrees boggles my mind. The temp of the chiller i would imagine would be a few degrees cooler than the fermenter. So realistically you are getting to around 39-40?

 

[Broothru]

The 15.5% increase you speak of, was what the retail was set to be, last year....$749. Early backers etc, were able to pick one up at $599, or in my case (late to the party) $659. Either way, they clearly informed everyone back in July, what the unit cost would retail for. Not sure where the confusion is coming from.

The "early backer" thing was what got me in the market for actually buying a glycol chiller. $599 certainly grabbed my attention when the offer first broke. I had been using a DIY setup with an Igloo cooler I'd converted and an aquarium pump and controller that came with the Ss Brewtech Chronical I purchased almost two years ago. It didn't take me long to come to the conclusion that swapping out 1 gallon frozen jugs at least twice a day wasn't much fun. Plus it was really hard to maintain an even temperature, let alone crash chill, with a DIY setup.

I tried repurposing a Brew Jacket peltier chiller but there was too much of the cooling rod exposed to air inside the fermenter to be efficient, and it couldn't be used under pressure once I got a unitank so that experiment didn't work out. I didn't want to go the 'WalMart portable air conditioner' route, so a ready made glycol device was the only thing that would scratch my itch. $599 seemed a 'reasonable' price point if I was willing to wait for delivery fulfillment. Then came the first price bump off the 'early' early subscriber price. O.K., still doable, but I just couldn't pull the trigger. Then there were delays in the supply chain, and an impending second price bump before deliveries would begin and retail price would be charged. Then another delay. The price differential was now only $100 between retail and the Ss Brew Tech model that I could have in my basement brewery within a week, freight included.

Bang. Trigger pulled. Even got $50 off for some kind of promotion, but of course that evaporated with the add-ons I now felt empowered to buy (heating element and controller upgrades for both Chronical and Unitank, TC devices I'd been fantasizing about for awhile, etc.). So my $599 curiosity had morphed into an $1,100 purchase. That said, even though there have only been a handful of brew sessions since October when I finally got everything put together and dialed in, they have all been smooth and effortless with complete control (temperature and pressure) on the cold-side process. And here it is, March, and the Stasis is still 'vaporware'. Between when I received my chiller and when the Stasis might be delivered given the supply chain disruptions over Covid19, I will easily have a dozen brew sessions done and through the kegerator with a proven system, absent any inherent growing pains.

I'm certainly not a genius, but I feel I made the right (lucky) choice in this case. It was worth the $500 premium.

Brooo Brother

 

[finished1]

The container ship was supposed to land 29 Feb. Shipping was not expected till March.

Per their website "*Expected delivery - March 2020" (https://craftabrew.com/products/the-stasis-glycol-chiller). So, its only March 3rd, what do you expect?



You can get a different unit from another manufacturer that is proven, has higher BTUs and is cheaper.

I like capitalism. Maybe the lack of future supply due to China's struggles warrants a 15.5% price increase. If people are willing to pay for it, great! Supply and demand....let the market decide. Though, I would have concern about future warranty demands as it sounds like there isn't much, if any, spare parts involving the kick starter. Hopefully, it performs as described.

 

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So an official update was posted on their Kickstarter page. The set date for the container ship to arrive at port is the 2/29/2020. It is set for for warehouse arrival a few days after and shipment will get started. Looks like an early March arrival for the Stasis.

The lower price was for pre-order only. That ended last week. We still haven't had an update on delivery. Was supposed to be on the 29th but no word as of yet.

Per your own previous post, they only mentioned the expected arrival port date of 2/29/2020. They did not mention when they would post an update.

The container ship was supposed to land 29 Feb. Shipping was not expected till March.

Yep, that is what I understood too. Even if it landed by the expected date of 2/29, I seriously doubt it has cleared customs. They themselves are probably waiting on news. So again, what do you expect? Today is only March 3rd....

 

[Nate R]

Can't speak for anyone else... but as I am a true millenial American...

 

[deuc224]

No lie the Icemaster Max4 is looking better and better.

 

[Craiginthecorn]

No lie the Icemaster Max4 is looking better and better.

There is a growing list of good options, especially in the mid-size range, the the Grainfather, Icemaster, and Blichmann. There is not a universal best choice for glycol chillers not almost any brewing equipment.

The cost of these is higher than even the full price Stasis after you consider the pumps and temperature controllers. But I don't consider the slightly lower price the most attractive feature of the Stasis. It's its physical size. It is quite a bit smaller and self-contained. I have a hard time imaging when I would need more than two lines and don't believe that cold crashing means 32F. The specs are unclear on the temperature of the glycol itself. They only state that the lowest set temperature is 36F, and that pertains to the beer, not the glycol.

I'm still hopeful that the Stasis will prove a sound choice, but Craft-A-Brew is doing its level best to aggravate buyers with the delays and tardy, infrequent updates. How about telling us the ship has arrived in port on schedule? That would be a first -- as scheduled, that is.

 

[Craiginthecorn]

How about telling us the ship has arrived in port on schedule? That would be a first -- as scheduled, that is.

Well how about that? They did just post an update to Kickstarter!

"Hello, backers!

We just received word that the Stasis container has cleared customs in Tampa! We selected the earliest departure date available and the container will be arriving at our Orlando warehouse Monday morning (3/9)! Our team will be working diligently to offload this trailer and begin processing & shipping orders on Tuesday (3/10). Order processing and shipping will span the week, so you may not receive your tracking number ON Tuesday.
"

 

[Craiginthecorn]

How about telling us the ship has arrived in port on schedule? That would be a first -- as scheduled, that is.

Well how about that? They did just post an update to Kickstarter!

"Hello, backers!

We just received word that the Stasis container has cleared customs in Tampa! We selected the earliest departure date available and the container will be arriving at our Orlando warehouse Monday morning (3/9)! Our team will be working diligently to offload this trailer and begin processing & shipping orders on Tuesday (3/10). Order processing and shipping will span the week, so you may not receive your tracking number ON Tuesday.
"

 

[Craiginthecorn]

How about telling us the ship has arrived in port on schedule? That would be a first -- as scheduled, that is.

Well how about that? They did just post an update to Kickstarter!

"Hello, backers!

We just received word that the Stasis container has cleared customs in Tampa! We selected the earliest departure date available and the container will be arriving at our Orlando warehouse Monday morning (3/9)! Our team will be working diligently to offload this trailer and begin processing & shipping orders on Tuesday (3/10). Order processing and shipping will span the week, so you may not receive your tracking number ON Tuesday.
"

 

[Craiginthecorn]

Sorry about the triple post! My Tapatalk app was hanging, so I tried a couple more times.

 

[Nate R]

There is a growing list of good options, especially in the mid-size range, the the Grainfather, Icemaster, and Blichmann. There is not a universal best choice for glycol chillers not almost any brewing equipment.

The cost of these is higher than even the full price Stasis after you consider the pumps and temperature controllers. But I don't consider the slightly lower price the most attractive feature of the Stasis. It's its physical size. It is quite a bit smaller and self-contained. I have a hard time imaging when I would need more than two lines and don't believe that cold crashing means 32F. The specs are unclear on the temperature of the glycol itself. They only state that the lowest set temperature is 36F, and that pertains to the beer, not the glycol.

I'm still hopeful that the Stasis will prove a sound choice, but Craft-A-Brew is doing its level best to aggravate buyers with the delays and tardy, infrequent updates. How about telling us the ship has arrived in port on schedule? That would be a first -- as scheduled, that is.

Maybe i am misreading the ad copy, but on their website they state: "Lowest set temperature 36°F"
I assume this to mean the glycol set point is 36. If that is the case, then the beer will most likely only get to 40 or so- mostly good enough for most people.
I agree that the size (and maybe quiter noise?) Is the best benefit.

 

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Well how about that? They did just post an update to Kickstarter!

"Hello, backers!

We just received word that the Stasis container has cleared customs in Tampa! We selected the earliest departure date available and the container will be arriving at our Orlando warehouse Monday morning (3/9)! Our team will be working diligently to offload this trailer and begin processing & shipping orders on Tuesday (3/10). Order processing and shipping will span the week, so you may not receive your tracking number ON Tuesday.
"

That's good to hear. Hopefully, they will fulfill the orders by first in, first out based upon how the orders were received. This is the only fair thing to do since so many have been waiting so long (four months overdue).

Maybe they can restore their reputation by refunding $50 on each order or offer a $50 credit on each order toward future purchases on their online store since THEY missed the mark. Again, THEY controlled the hype, the narrative and when the order was actually placed. Plus, as many of you have witnessed, they have the extra cash since they raised the pricing multiple times.

It would be a class act to make that type and amount of refund or credit. A discount toward future purchases won't cut it and very well could have a negative result or impression since they really are not offering anything special. Most people are not enticed by simple discounts, but most people will use a $50 refund or credit.

Just something for them to consider.....

 

[Craiginthecorn]

They sent an email stating that Kickstarter orders would be shipped first, followed by pre-orders, but that all orders should ship within the same week.

 

[WesBrew]

Maybe i am misreading the ad copy, but on their website they state: "Lowest set temperature 36°F"
I assume this to mean the glycol set point is 36. If that is the case, then the beer will most likely only get to 40 or so- mostly good enough for most people.
I agree that the size (and maybe quiter noise?) Is the best benefit.

The chiller maintains the glycol mix at 30degrees. The lowest set point for your fermenter is 36 degrees.

 

[Broothru]

Maybe i am misreading the ad copy, but on their website they state: "Lowest set temperature 36°F"
I assume this to mean the glycol set point is 36. If that is the case, then the beer will most likely only get to 40 or so- mostly good enough for most people.
I agree that the size (and maybe quiter noise?) Is the best benefit.

^^^that

Not only the initial 'early adopter' price of $599 but the profile of the Stasis initially caught my eye. I haven't yet, and don't really see in the future, a need for multiple crash capability, though I sometimes use two fermenters under "chill" conditions. In the end what swayed me away from Stasis were the uncertain timeline, the unproven track record of the unit, the smaller capacity of the unit to chill overall, and specifically the small volume of glycol in the tank (though some might consider this a plus since it reduces the unit's size and footprint). I hope the unit turns out to be worry-free for those who ordered it, and meets up to their needs and expectations.

Brooo Brother

 

[Nate R]

The chiller maintains the glycol mix at 30degrees. The lowest set point for your fermenter is 36 degrees.

Good to know for all. That seems fine to crash a 5 or 10 gallon unit.
Just curious.. where did you pull that data from? I spent a while 15 seconds on their website and only found what i posted (as i mentioned above, IWWIWWIWI !!!!)

 

[WesBrew]

Good to know for all. That seems fine to crash a 5 or 10 gallon unit.
Just curious.. where did you pull that data from? I spent a while 15 seconds on their website and only found what i posted (as i mentioned above, IWWIWWIWI !!!!)

It was on the video at 1:50, on their website. I think the stasis glycol reservoir is automatically chilled to 30, then the setting to maintain your fermenter temp is a lowest setting of 36.

 

[4TBBUCS]

Anybody receive a shipping notification yet?

 

[Craiginthecorn]

Anybody receive a shipping notification yet?

Not me, but mine was a pre-order, so mine will ship after the Kickstarter supporters.

 

[4TBBUCS]

Same here...

 

[Thorrak]

I was a kickstarter supporter, but I'm guessing I was about midway down the list. No shipping notification yet, FWIW.

 

[hopjunkie26]

Funny, have had my eye on the Stasis for a while. Got a nice little bonus check and almost pulled the trigger because the site shows that it is currently available. Decided to check for some reviews and found this thread only to find out that those original kickstarter supporters haven't even received their units yet.

Not a good look. That really diminishes my hopes that they will put out a quality product.