The Rare Beer Bubble. When will it pop?

[harrymel1]

That's some next level ****:

 

[jivex5k1]

I'm just glad this "rare beer bubble" has finally popped.

 

[furley]

as a young child, fully immersed in catholic school, daily churching and the threatening threats (?) of nuns and priests alike i had a strong fear of the world coming to an end in some apocalyptic firestorm of sin

at some point around 3rd or 4th grade i realized... THE WORLD ENDS EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE

because they ****ing die

once i realized that i shouldn't care so much about it i stopped worrying about it completely and gave up on religion completely

how that relates here i'm not totally sure but i think it might work

 

[thejukes]

Once all the newmoney realizes how much more l33t the bourbon (and mead?) scene is, maybe beer will calm down a bit.

Dang ole rich tickers riding the hype train.

 

[stupac2]

Once all the newmoney realizes how much more l33t the bourbon (and mead?) scene is, maybe beer will calm down a bit.

Dang ole rich tickers riding the hype train.

I legitimately laughed at the idea of Bourbon being where the real status is.

I still think it's kind of sad that anyone who wants to use consumption to feel big about themselves gets into beer (or bourbon for that matter). It's like dominating your local geriatric shuffleboard league and bragging about it.

 

[thejukes]

I legitimately laughed at the idea of Bourbon being where the real status is.

I still think it's kind of sad that anyone who wants to use consumption to feel big about themselves gets into beer (or bourbon for that matter). It's like dominating your local geriatric shuffleboard league and bragging about it.

Dude, I'm trying to start a movement here. Let's move them along to another beverage. Just go with it.


Man, beer is so pedestrian. Small batch bourbon and cider are where it's at. That's what all the big dick pipe layers are into now. I just wish I could afford to participate.

 

[jivex5k1]

Forget about Bourbon and Cider...the market for small batch schnapps is skyrocketing. I was skeptical until I had a Pappy barrel aged smore's schnapp.

 

[mrpeterandthepuffers]

i think the past few post have got it right. The bottle that are being brought for theses price are being bought by the same people who a couple years ago where then one's buying $1000+ bottles of wine. Most of these are being bought as status symbols to show off you have the latest and great thing at the moment. The same thing that happened to pappy.

Side note at these price i am surprised there is no provenance like there is for wine

I disagree with this since I know some of the people that purchase at insane prices. I've witnessed more than one person buy KBBS at $500 because they want to tick it, not just show it to their friends and wave their dick around. One of the guys that bought it didn't tell anyone he bought it or take it to a share. Just 12 oz into a TG tulip. If you're gonna buy a $500 beer you might as well drink it proper.

I don't have the cash to throw at stuff like that, but if you're 30 years old, single, no kids, good job, and craft beer is your only real hobby... why not go all out?

It's certainly easier to work for 8 hours at your regular job and send someone $500 for the beer to show up at your door than it is to stand in line at multiple releases in order to get enough ammo to throw at a bottle over on the ISO:FT's, IMO.

And provenance is coming into play after some of the TG debacles. People want to know where you got your bottle if you're trading one these days. Of course there's no real way to know if you purchased it from the brewery or not so everyone just says they were there on release day and stored it in the temp controlled walk in cooler/cellar with their shelves o' walez.

 

[stupac2]

I don't have the cash to throw at stuff like that, but if you're 30 years old, single, no kids, good job, and craft beer is your only real hobby... why not go all out?

Honestly, from that description what this dude needs to do is get a life.

And provenance is coming into play after some of the TG debacles. People want to know where you got your bottle if you're trading one these days. Of course there's no real way to know if you purchased it from the brewery or not so everyone just says they were there on release day and stored it in the temp controlled walk in cooler/cellar with their shelves o' walez.

How does buying it from some guy alleviate this at all? If anything I'd be far more skeptical of someone who's looking for money than someone looking for beer.

 

[Sage1]

Just for sake of curiosity, can someone explain to me how provenance works in the wine world? Tried googling but the fact that there’s a Provenance vineyard kind of pollutes the results…

 

[JulianB1]

Just for sake of curiosity, can someone explain to me how provenance works in the wine world? Tried googling but the fact that there’s a Provenance vineyard kind of pollutes the results…

Try the search "wine bottle provenance and authentication", I got what look like some substantive links.

 

[mrpeterandthepuffers]

Honestly, from that description what this dude needs to do is get a life.

How does buying it from some guy alleviate this at all? If anything I'd be far more skeptical of someone who's looking for money than someone looking for beer.

Why does he need to get a life? He has the disposable income to buy the stuff he wants. If he wants a KBBS, he buys it..

If he wants a motorcycle or a new tv he buys it. No different than someone investing big money into restoring cars, collecting video games, etc.

Beer is his main hobby, some people take their hobbies more seriously than others and have big money to throw at their hobbies.

 

[bramsdell]

Why does he need to get a life? He has the disposable income to buy the stuff he wants. If he wants a KBBS, he buys it..

If he wants a motorcycle or a new tv he buys it. No different than someone investing big money into restoring cars, collecting video games, etc.

I would argue something about the fact that spending 5 minutes of MBC and Paypal and then 30 minutes consuming a 12oz beverage is at least a little different than restoring cars or buying a motorcycle. And I don't think TV's count as hobbies, but same basic argument.

 

[brooklyn]

 

[mrpeterandthepuffers]

I would argue something about the fact that spending 5 minutes of MBC and Paypal and then 30 minutes consuming a 12oz beverage is at least a little different than restoring cars or buying a motorcycle. And I don't think TV's count as hobbies, but same basic argument.

I guess I'm not in the business of telling people that my hobbies are better than theirs.

We're all in the same beer game, some just play it differently. To put it terms that are easier to understand for us all - We can all agree that amputee midget porn is awesome. You and I are above the basic level where we just watch amputee midget porn.. we talk about it on forums dedicated to the craft.

My buddy on the other hand, he has the means to buy an amputee midget. It's not a different hobby, just a different way of enjoying the hobby. No one enjoys their hobby quite the same way as the next guy.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

 

[stupac2]

Why does he need to get a life?

Because your description made it sound like all he does is work and drink beer. That's ****ing depressing.

 

[drgarage1]

Because your description made it sound like all he does is work and drink beer. That's ****ing depressing.

...alone!

 

[harrymel1]

That's what all the big dick pipe layers are into now.

ZOMG! LINK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!1111!1111111121!!1!1@422322

PLEASE!

 

[thejukes]

ZOMG! LINK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!1111!1111111121!!1!1@422322

PLEASE!

Follow me on SnapBook, bruh. Hope you have an iPhone 6 Plus!

 

[sacrelicio]

So you're willing to trade Sierra Nevada Torpedo for Bourbon County Coffee or did I once again misunderstand? I do have access to Torpedo and can ship Tuesday.

Are we reading the same thread?

 

[Arbitrator]

Because your description made it sound like all he does is work and drink beer. That's ****ing depressing.

Well, **** you, too.

I legitimately laughed at the idea of Bourbon being where the real status is.

That's because you don't follow it. Not sure how much zoom will help on this, but yes, that's an $1800 bottle of whiskey.

I think 'pop' is the wrong term for most of this, as you'll find people with money to spend that are convinced that an aged, possibly-rewaxed-and-faked KBBS is worth $500. But if the economy takes a downturn, I see a lot of that interest vanishing.

 

[mrpeterandthepuffers]

Well, **** you, too.



That's because you don't follow it. Not sure how much zoom will help on this, but yes, that's an $1800 bottle of whiskey.

I think 'pop' is the wrong term for most of this, as you'll find people with money to spend that are convinced that an aged, possibly-rewaxed-and-faked KBBS is worth $500. But if the economy takes a downturn, I see a lot of that interest vanishing.

Alright, I'll bite, what's the $1800 whiskey and is that market price or some crazy markup?

 

[bramsdell]

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Nah, I'll go ahead hatin on both. It's a stupid game and those who play are stupid. Sort of like those people who play quiddich.

 

[Arbitrator]

Alright, I'll bite, what's the $1800 whiskey and is that market price or some crazy markup?

It was one of the Parker's Heritage Collection whiskies. I don't recall which one it was, but most of them retailed for an average of $100. It's a huge markup, and people will pay it. Bourbon has become a speculator market for rich kids.

I saw this happening a few years ago, so I switched to rye. Guess what happened to rye? FML.

I'm going to make moonshine now.

 

[drgarage1]

It was one of the Parker's Heritage Collection whiskies. I don't recall which one it was, but most of them retailed for an average of $100. It's a huge markup, and people will pay it. Bourbon has become a speculator market for rich kids.

I saw this happening a few years ago, so I switched to rye. Guess what happened to rye? FML.

Canadian whisky is still cheap!

 

[ASUBeer]

I just need to move to one of those recreational Matijuana states that also has good shelfies. **** that rare stuff.

 

[JulianB1]

Well, **** you, too.



That's because you don't follow it. Not sure how much zoom will help on this, but yes, that's an $1800 bottle of whiskey.

I think 'pop' is the wrong term for most of this, as you'll find people with money to spend that are convinced that an aged, possibly-rewaxed-and-faked KBBS is worth $500. But if the economy takes a downturn, I see a lot of that interest vanishing.

I presume when stupac2 mocks the idea of bourbon being where the status is, he's referring to the fact that it's in wine, like it always has been and always will be.

 

[stupac2]

I presume when stupac2 mocks the idea of bourbon being where the status is, he's referring to the fact that it's in wine, like it always has been and always will be.

Yeah, seriously. An example of an expensive bottle is $1800? That's chump change for wine.

 

[bramsdell]

Yeah, seriously. An example of an expensive bottle is $1800? That's chump change for wine.

Especially - unlike wine and beer - you get a fair bit more out of a bottle of whiskey. Not that people who drop mine money really care about that, but still.

 

[drgarage1]

Especially - unlike wine and beer - you get a fair bit more out of a bottle of whiskey. Not that people who drop mine money really care about that, but still.

Wine is probably #1, followed by comically old Scots whisky.

 

[stupac2]

Especially - unlike wine and beer - you get a fair bit more out of a bottle of whiskey. Not that people who drop mine money really care about that, but still.

That's a good point. A bottle of wine is, what, four good servings? And you have to drink them all at once. A bottle of bourbon is like 20-ish that can be spread out over a long-ish time? Pretty big difference in utility there.

 

[thejukes]

Dude, wine is for oldmoney, Europeans, and Valium-riddled housewives. It is not cool.


At all.

 

[JulianB1]

Dude, wine is for oldmoney, Europeans, and Valium-riddled housewives. It is not cool.


At all.

Newmoney gets into wine frequently. Only it's Wall Street and Silicon Valley executive-level newmoney, not "just graduated from a medium-ranked professional school and got a decent-paying entry level job" newmoney.

 

[thejukes]

Newmoney gets into wine frequently. Only it's Wall Street and Silicon Valley executive-level newmoney, not "just graduated from a medium-ranked professional school and got a decent-paying entry level job" newmoney.

Like I said, not cool.



Not even a little.

 

[Arbitrator]

I presume when stupac2 mocks the idea of bourbon being where the status is, he's referring to the fact that it's in wine, like it always has been and always will be.

Which is true, but I assumed we were talking about:

Newmoney gets into wine frequently. Only it's Wall Street and Silicon Valley executive-level newmoney, not "just graduated from a medium-ranked professional school and got a decent-paying entry level job" newmoney.

Most of those #newmoney idiots who are into beer are into whiskey right now -- and they're driving up whiskey prices into much more ridiculous territory than beer.

Yeah, wine is orders of magnitude more ridiculous, but there isn't a Venn diagram situation with those people. I should have clarified that, though.

Hoping to get into Silicon Valley executive-level newmoney within a few years so I can gripe about butlers who don't do their jerbs properly.

 

[JulianB1]

Which is true, but I assumed we were talking about:



Most of those #newmoney idiots who are into beer are into whiskey right now -- and they're driving up whiskey prices into much more ridiculous territory than beer.

Yeah, wine is orders of magnitude more ridiculous, but there isn't a Venn diagram situation with those people. I should have clarified that, though.

Hoping to get into Silicon Valley executive-level newmoney within a few years so I can gripe about butlers who don't do their jerbs properly.

Okay I see what you mean and I agree. There's a lot of overlap in the crowd chasing rare beer and medium-rare whiskey. (Some of the real whiskey heavy hitters I see online don't seem to have any interest in beer though). And yeah, I haven't seen too many that cross over into expensive wine.

 

[Arbitrator]

Okay I see what you mean and I agree. There's a lot of overlap in the crowd chasing rare beer and medium-rare whiskey. (Some of the real whiskey heavy hitters I see online don't seem to have any interest in beer though). And yeah, I haven't seen too many that cross over into expensive wine.

Yeah, I thought it was telling that the store where I took that photo had Hill Farmstead beers for $80+, Derk Lerd for $100, KBS for $30 (singles), whiskies like the above photo, but no wine over $100 a bottle.

They know their market.

 

[drgarage1]

Yeah, I thought it was telling that the store where I took that photo had Hill Farmstead beers for $80+, Derk Lerd for $100, KBS for $30 (singles), whiskies like the above photo, but no wine over $100 a bottle.

They know their market.

What nightmare store is that?

 

[RyanG1]

What nightmare store is that?

Cask?

 

[drgarage1]

Cask?

I'd be surprised, if only for the presence of HF and Derk Lerd. They charge ridiculous prices, but usually with legitimately acquired bottles.