Syracuse, ny - round 6 group grain buy

[Strecker25]

anyone have any experience with the GW-2ROW vs the GW-PALE? I prefer american 2row and it appears that the GW-2row is the best bet, but just curious of other people experiences.

thanks!

 

[nvr2low]

once Jeff adds my order we should be around 75 bags.

thanks for keeping me in the loop Jeff!

 

[jeffb418]

once Jeff adds my order we should be around 75 bags.

thanks for keeping me in the loop Jeff!

Added a bunch for my buddy, and another co-worker.

Total at 76 bags/chems out of 84


Cidah, should we stop at 82 bags? Just in-case so we don't accidently go over the 2 pallet limit? Let me know at what number you want me to lock the spreadsheet from being edited by anyone.

Jeff B

 

[TwoGunz]

Holy horse **** batman, I can't keep up with this thread or this buy anymore. I have obviously not been brewing enough-- or drinking enough since I'm keg limited now. You crazy bastards!

 

[Smashing]

added a 1/4 to the black. Come on and pick up the last 1/4 someone!

 

[copyright1997]

How much is the 2 row I'd be coming from buffalo wanted to make sure it's worth it

The price is going to vary based on shipping, etc. Looking at the spreadsheet, it estimates just shy of $35 for a 55# sack of CM-2ROW. That's about $0.64 per pound. If I were you I'd buy a few sacks.

In all seriousness, I think I get the award as I travel from east of Albany for this. With these group buys, reusing yeast, and getting hops in quantity (under $1/oz), my typical 5 gallon batch costs less than $15. For instance, my last batch was a Sierra Nevada Celebration clone. With new yeast (which I will be able to re-use a couple of generations), brewsmith says my cost was $13.82 (plus propane). So pretty close to $15 figuring the propane, co2, StarSan, and assuming I amortize the cost of the yeast ($4) over a few batches. It sucks drinking craft beer for 29 cents per beer.

 

[jeffb418]

If we close all open splits, we will be at 82 total items. So if anyone wants to jump on a split... this may be your last shot. I predict by tomorrow night we will be closed.

 

[copyright1997]

If we close all open splits, we will be at 82 total items. So if anyone wants to jump on a split... this may be your last shot. I predict by tomorrow night we will be closed.

Unless we go for 3! (pallets that is.)

Cida, I see you have BD-MOPA vs. the TF-MOPA. Any reason?

Edit: Added another sack of TF-MOPA.

SACKS = 75 (Plus 2 Chemical)==> 77

 

[bierhaus15]

Should we try for three pallets or wait to close before we know where this thing is going to be shipped to? I could probably add another 10+ sacks no problem but it just depends where I need to pick it up from.

 

[jeffb418]

Should we try for three pallets or wait to close before we know where this thing is going to be shipped to? I could probably add another 10+ sacks no problem but it just depends where I need to pick it up from.

3 pallets might be a nightmare. We already have 18 people picking up on this sale, and a price tag of over $3500. But its up to Cidah and who ever is taking the delivery. They are gonna have to manage it, including counting all the bags when they first arrive.

Jeff

 

[copyright1997]

It seems like the split spreadsheet was lonely, so I added .25 onto the split for GW-C150. Still contemplating whether I want to get 2 bags of TF-MOPA instead of one....

So, my entry for the .25 of GW-C150 seems to have caused a tidal-wave of additions!

 

[Smashing]

Anyone wanna go in on a bag of pils or honey? I could go up to a 1/3 on either of those. Didn't add it to the sheet since there's a bunch of open splits and we're close to closing the buy.

 

[CidahMastah]

Should we try for three pallets or wait to close before we know where this thing is going to be shipped to? I could probably add another 10+ sacks no problem but it just depends where I need to pick it up from.

THIRD PALLET

I am thinking we should shoot for a third pallet. when we get to two pallets we should:
1. take a snap shot of the amounts and who has them.
2. keep the buy moving forward and we can continue on with the buy until it a. fizzles out, or until a set date.

Last time I think I calculated that just over half a pallet made sense with shipping. That would mean we would shoot for a minimum of 109 out of 126 bags to close 3 pallets. Truthfully it looks like we are getting widespread interest that could push us to fill 3 pallets, which would probably lead to our cheapest shipping rate since I started up these buys!!

I can play with the numbers and let people know what I think makes sense (filling half a pallet etc.)

Sounds good?

I mean if bierhaus thinks he can get 10 and we get another couple waves of buys I think that we can not only step up into the cheaper prices for the grain, but get a really good deal on shipping.

In short, the more we get coming at us the better the price shipping per bag will be, and the price per lb for the grain.

KEEP THE GRAIN COMING GUYS

smashing throw those splits up if you want - let's go for the long haul on this one.

 

[CidahMastah]

How much is the 2 row I'd be coming from buffalo wanted to make sure it's worth it

Good to have you along for the ride!

Price for 2row should be like ~$30 a bag. If you get a few bags and possibly coordinate with another person from your area it is well worth it. If you jump in on splits you save a ton of money for the specialty grains you use to brew as well.

** if you put your name into the order sheet on post 2 you can add a bag of 2row (or other bags of grain) and see the estimate price.**

"We buy directly through NCM - this means that we will get true wholesale bulk pricing!
~$30 2Row + shipping (~$4-6)
~$40 Marris Otter + shipping (~$4-6)"

 

[CidahMastah]

anyone have any experience with the GW-2ROW vs the GW-PALE? I prefer american 2row and it appears that the GW-2row is the best bet, but just curious of other people experiences.

thanks!

Strecker - good to have you along.

I would say the flavor is negligible. Sometimes NCM is out of GW2row so we have to substitute with CM 2row.

Truthfully the only reason I now alwys buy CM2row is that it comes in a 55lb bag and I have had really good results with it.

If you have more questions let us know

 

[CidahMastah]

Holy horse **** batman, I can't keep up with this thread or this buy anymore. I have obviously not been brewing enough-- or drinking enough since I'm keg limited now. You crazy bastards!

Haha indeed! I would say that after this one closes up it will be 2-3 months before we do another buy. So if you plan on brewing a lot you may want to grab a bag or two

 

[snooky]

How much is the 2 row I'd be coming from buffalo wanted to make sure it's worth it

I'll be making the trip from Buffalo for my pickup too. I have a few bags on order. It seemed that as long as I was getting more than one bag, it would be more cost effective to do this. And like it was mentioned earlier, it would be worth it to coordinate a pickup.

 

[CidahMastah]

I'll be making the trip from Buffalo for my pickup too. I have a few bags on order. It seemed that as long as I was getting more than one bag, it would be more cost effective to do this. And like it was mentioned earlier, it would be worth it to coordinate a pickup.

I am sure you guys can work something out. One thing that continually amazes me about these buys is the willingness of good people to help each other out, even when they have never met each other. A little help goes a long way in really making the grain buys work and save us all a ton of money.

 

[jeffb418]

THIRD PALLET

I am thinking we should shoot for a third pallet. when we get to two pallets we should:
1. take a snap shot of the amounts and who has them.
2. keep the buy moving forward and we can continue on with the buy until it a. fizzles out, or until a set date.

Last time I think I calculated that just over half a pallet made sense with shipping. That would mean we would shoot for a minimum of 109 out of 126 bags to close 3 pallets. Truthfully it looks like we are getting widespread interest that could push us to fill 3 pallets, which would probably lead to our cheapest shipping rate since I started up these buys!!

I can play with the numbers and let people know what I think makes sense (filling half a pallet etc.)

Sounds good?

I mean if bierhaus thinks he can get 10 and we get another couple waves of buys I think that we can not only step up into the cheaper prices for the grain, but get a really good deal on shipping.

In short, the more we get coming at us the better the price shipping per bag will be, and the price per lb for the grain.

KEEP THE GRAIN COMING GUYS

smashing throw those splits up if you want - let's go for the long haul on this one.

The big question, where is this being delivered?

 

[CidahMastah]

The big question, where is this being delivered?

Short answer is TBD; Syracuse area.

Longer answer:
As I noted before, I will keep everyone apprised as I figure that part out. It is possible that we may have a place of business to deliver to, which would save significantly on shipping. If not it will have to be my house or somewhere else. If my house it will add residence shipping charges to the bill (I am trying to avoid that). Either way the price on the grain will be very good, and as stated in the estimates.

As I also said before, if I am taking this in at my house I would like to push it out into February as much as possible to avoid snow delivery. I also need to clean my garage up a bit to accept this much grain.

 

[Strecker25]

Strecker - good to have you along.

I would say the flavor is negligible. Sometimes NCM is out of GW2row so we have to substitute with CM 2row.

Truthfully the only reason I now alwys buy CM2row is that it comes in a 55lb bag and I have had really good results with it.

If you have more questions let us know

awesome thank you, you guys are tempting me with this 3rd pallet now i might have to stock up even further. I have had good luck simply storing unmilled grain in rubbermaid containers, is this what most people do? How long have you guys been able to store the stuff? (keeping it cool and dry in a basement, of course)

 

[zeno27]

Haha indeed! I would say that after this one closes up it will be 2-3 months before we do another buy. So if you plan on brewing a lot you may want to grab a bag or two

2-3 months? I bet it will be more like 2-3 WEEKS! Some of you guys are out of control !

 

[Smashing]

THIRD PALLET

I am thinking we should shoot for a third pallet. when we get to two pallets we should:
1. take a snap shot of the amounts and who has them.
2. keep the buy moving forward and we can continue on with the buy until it a. fizzles out, or until a set date.

Last time I think I calculated that just over half a pallet made sense with shipping. That would mean we would shoot for a minimum of 109 out of 126 bags to close 3 pallets. Truthfully it looks like we are getting widespread interest that could push us to fill 3 pallets, which would probably lead to our cheapest shipping rate since I started up these buys!!

I can play with the numbers and let people know what I think makes sense (filling half a pallet etc.)

Sounds good?

I mean if bierhaus thinks he can get 10 and we get another couple waves of buys I think that we can not only step up into the cheaper prices for the grain, but get a really good deal on shipping.

In short, the more we get coming at us the better the price shipping per bag will be, and the price per lb for the grain.

KEEP THE GRAIN COMING GUYS

smashing throw those splits up if you want - let's go for the long haul on this one.

A 3rd pallet will give me a little more time to convince SWMBO that I really do need this grain.

 

[snooky]

awesome thank you, you guys are tempting me with this 3rd pallet now i might have to stock up even further. I have had good luck simply storing unmilled grain in rubbermaid containers, is this what most people do? How long have you guys been able to store the stuff? (keeping it cool and dry in a basement, of course)

I keep mine in a rubbermaid tote in my basement too. I started brewing AG about a year and a half ago. Then I lost my brewing space. Now that I bought a house, I'm doing AG again and I'm getting great flavor and 75%+ efficiency from that first grain I bought long ago.

 

[jeffb418]

Sorry to those who were just editing the sheet. I added more cols to handle more buyers if we have to. Should be good to go, let me know if you see anything weird with anything you add.

Jeff

 

[copyright1997]

While I've ordered 5+ sacks, I'm in no immediate hurry to "get delivery". It's not the money, but rather driving my butt out to Syracuse (or wherever) and back. (Now, when I use up the last 30 or so pounds of 2-row I have, my attitude might change! Note to self: brew mostly using Munich, Vienna, Pilsen, MO, wheat.) Now I certainly understand that others may be more anxious, so whatever happens happens.

I would also like to propose some "donation" splits. The idea would be to create some entries in the order that we could sign up for but that would be destined to the folks having to manage the order, take delivery of the grains (and physically move all the sacks to count and verify them), and who did the awesome google docs spreadsheet. For example, let's say there is one for CM-2ROW or TF-MOPA or whatever, I could sign up for .25 sack (for example), which would be charged to me but would go to the folks mentioned above. I realize that this is one of many ways this could be handled, I just don't want this to be lost in the shuffle.

Note that I am in no way trying to pressure anyone to participate in this (other than myself).

 

[Mparsons327]

Wow! This thread has been really moving along lately! Glad your pushing for three pallets. I need to order some stuff do I'll get it figured out and post later!

As far as the kegs go I haven't talked to the owner yet. He has been out of state but I will get some solid answers ASAP! As I said before if he's not willing to be halfway decent and work with us on price I'm gonna kill it. Did anyone else find any other sources?

 

[Strecker25]

hey guys I want to add another bag of rye to the split so I added a line in the split section but when I put in the quantity my price doesn't update. I'm not sure where the total bag price / split calculation is done?

 

[jbsengineer]

I closed a couple splits, and added another couple bags. Found a great deal on gamma lids and buckets so they need to be filled, .

82 BAGS!

 

[jeffb418]

hey guys I want to add another bag of rye to the split so I added a line in the split section but when I put in the quantity my price doesn't update. I'm not sure where the total bag price / split calculation is done?

I have to manually add the price for new splits. So add the split then later I will update the pricing. I get email updates when anything changes so I'll see when you add it.