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billf2112

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I have brewed 2 kits (both Brewers Best, Irish Stout and Red Ale). Everything has gone very good, as far as I can see.

How many kits should I do before moving onto recipes?

I have been watching the Brewmasters TV show and it has really got me excited about doing more complex recipes.

I am really good at following directions/recipes.

Looking forward to everyones input.

Thanks
 
Designing your own recipes is a great next step! If you're comfortable with the brewing process, moving on from kits to recipes is pretty easy. If you don't already have Palmer's How to Brew, check it out. The previous edition is available online for free: www.howtobrew.com

Assuming you are doing 5 gallon batches, you can make a wide variety of things by just starting with 1 pound of light liquid malt extract for every 7-7.5 gravity points (e.g., 7 pounds of LME would get you an OG in the neighborhood of 1.049 to 1.053). Then you can choose specialty grains appropriate to the kind of beer you want to make, a la:
http://www.howtobrew.com/section4/chapter20-5.html

You can play around with hops and yeast endlessly, but if you read a few recipes (on this forum, for example), you'll start to get the feel of it.

Just have fun with it!
 
If you're not ready to make up your own recipes, but ready to leave kits behind, check out our huge recipe database. We have hundreds of proven recipes, and most all-grain recipes can easily be converted to extract with steepng grains. We can help you with that, if you want.
 
Designing your own recipes is a great next step! If you're comfortable with the brewing process, moving on from kits to recipes is pretty easy. If you don't already have Palmer's How to Brew, check it out. The previous edition is available online for free: www.howtobrew.com

Just have fun with it!

I'm glad to hear that. I did 3 kits by following the instructions and then started to make a slight change in the kit for the next 2 to see what happened (added a flavor extract). Now I have a recipe brew in the fermenter as a base to make a blueberry beer. From there on I'll probably go with recipes if this one turns out well.
 
Check out Deathbrewer's easy partial mash thread. I used this for my last brew- Turkish Coffee Stout- a partial mash kit from Austin Home Brew Supply. Its got pics and a very simple how to https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/easy-partial-mash-brewing-pics-75231/
You said you were wanting to not use kits but AHS has kits for tons of beers that they will sale in all extract, partial mash, or all grain forms. Pretty sweet.
 
Well, I started my first batch all-grain, so maybe I'm not one to talk. But I think that if you have a decent handle on the basics of boiling, fermentation, etc, you could move on to extract recipes - perhaps with steeped grains.

Randy Mosher has an excellent approach to a first-time recipe in his book 'Radical Brewing,' starting on pg 31. He allows the novice brewer to devise their own brew by offering a recipe with 2 variables.

Basically, you make an extract recipe with 5 lbs light DME. Choose a crystal malt, whatever color you like, and steep anywhere from 5. to 1.5 pounds of it in the kettle (2.5 gallons of water) as it heats up, slowly, to boil. Darker crystals give a darker color and more roasted flavor; lighter ones add caramely sweetness. More will give more flavor and color, less will give less. At 200F, remove the grains (they should be in a muslin bag) and add the DME. Bring to boil, careful not to boil over.

Then, choose a hop variety - Cascade for American hop aromas; Saaz for Czech; Hallertau for German; or East Kent Goldings for British. Use 4, 6, or 8 oz of the choosen variety, depending on if you want mild, moderate, or strong bitterness and hop aroma. Bear in mind that Cascades tend to be more bitter and Saaz to be less. Add 1/4 of them at the beginning of the boil, 1/4 of them 40 minutes in, and 1/2 of them about a minute before the end.

Cool down the wort, being careful to keep it sanitary; the best way is to top it off to five gallons with cold water (the water should be sterile; boil it the day beforehand and keep it in the fridge, maybe). You should need about 3.5 gallons, but it depends on how much water boiled off the wort. Once the total 5 gallons of wort is at about room temperature, pitch in the yeast. Just choose a strain that interests you (don't use a lager strain). Leave it for 2-3 weeks, until the airlock stops bubbling.

Prime it with 1/2 to 3/4 cups corn sugar, depending on how carbonated you want it (more sugar makes it more carbonated, obviously) and bottle.

I like this approach because it allows you to easily devise your own recipe. If you want to brew a specific style of beer, or don't feel up to figuring that much out yet, there are plenty of good extract recipes in the recipe database here.

If you do choose to go the way I described above, please say so! That was just a summary; if you're planning on following that advice, I'd like to make sure I'm not forgetting anything I should say about it. Or just pick up 'Radical Brewing;' it's very good.

If not, have fun with whatever you want to brew!
 
Yeah, I would second the recommendation to follow recipes on this website. Do a search for "contest winner" and you'll find the posts detailing the contestant recipes. They all seem good to me, haven't had a bad one yet!
 
I have been watching the Brewmasters TV show and it has really got me excited about doing more complex recipes.

Tell me you are not going to chew up some corn and make Chichu :cross:
 
I found it easy and helpful to buy kits that have the base ingredients, DME, yeast, hops, etc... and build off of those. You can always save the ingredients you dont want to use for another time. For example a pale ale kit can be turned into many different types depending on what you want to add to it. You can sub the hops, add some crystal malt, sugars, flavor extracts... otherwise you might want to write your ingredient list on paper before you go to the store. I have forgotten bits that stopped me from brewing at all that night.
 
Yeah, I would second the recommendation to follow recipes on this website. Do a search for "contest winner" and you'll find the posts detailing the contestant recipes. They all seem good to me, haven't had a bad one yet!

I'll third it. Before you start creating your own stuff, it's good to follow some tried and true recipes so you can know what variables do what. You'll more that much more equipped to create your own recipes in the future.
 
My first only kit tasted terrible and I have been using AHS recipes ever since. Just as easy if not easier and great results. Go for it.
 
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