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Rewatching Greg's video. He seems a little crazy. Like a cult leader. And it's not just the beard but the crazy eyes throughout the whole thing.

Like, at any moment he could snap and force us to work manual labour in the field while one of his brewer's beats us and they are crying because they don't want to beat us but they know if they don't then Greg will bludgeon them with a cross while yelling "THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT".
 
It definitely needs to say GRGKOCH
KOCH wouldn't get through. I've tried so much ****:

(HAND)JBSFTW

I(HEART)POON

(HAND)JB

and like 20 others.

Meanwhile - this was ******* approved:

dirty-license-plate-bukake.jpg


Even tried 6PT0 once, referencing a 6 liter engine. Denied. They probably though it was the Spanish slang "puto"
 
You started with ANY?

Only 1 **** because people outside of the state think Stone is the brewing world in San Diego. They're not even top 20! But they sort of represent us and they be making g us look bad. I wish he'd drop the hobo look and return to Greg FACE! Simply because that's easier to deal with.
 
Posted on the other forum:

I heard the feedback and we reconsidered, well, pretty much everything. Gotta own up when I muck something up, and it sure appears that I did! I thought this whole thing would be a fun way to engage folks in a new chapter of our adventure, but I see that it seemed like it was panhandling for money. I know I look a bit fuzzy around the edges personally, but I'm not wanting to be hat-in-hand! ;-]-= It's not the worst mistake in my life, but I'd rather you guys be stoked with the plan than to look at it and think we're trying to game you.

So, anyway, I appreciate everyone's feedback. We redid everything to change it to what we hope you'll see is an exceedingly good deal. I think it's a fun way to fund what we're promising will be some really interesting beers in a bit of a reversal of the normal brew-it-then-sell-it model. Instead this is a sell-it-and-then-make-sure-we-over-deliver-on-our-promise model. True, it might not be a model that works for everyone due to logistics, or not wanting to pay now and get the beer later, or because they just think that personally I'm a [fill in your favorite personal insult here]. Of course, we've made a career of doing things that don't work for most people, but some folks think are awesome.

So, I think we're in awesome territory on what we're offering with 1.5Litre bottles and the "Team Stone" privileges for a day when you come to pick them up. If you think you'll visit Stone in the future, it's kinda a no-brainer proposition. Even if you have to send a mule and they get the privileges, it still ain't a bad deal IF we deliver on our promises with the beers...and, well, that's what we always have to do our best to do every day, and we've got a pretty decent track record overall in the grand scheme...and I think this format of pre-sold will really set the stage for us to get over the top in a great way with the recipes and end results.

So, from one beer geek to all of you, cheers! -Greg.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...staurant-in-berlin.195806/page-4#post-2620241
 
I wonder about the % of sales for Stone in county and out of county. None of my beer geek friends really every talk about or drink Stone. I do like Enjoy By, damn tasty and a great price.

I realize the people who post here are hardcore beer fucknuts. But just because beer sells, doesn't mean it's any good. I wonder if Greg's nuttiness has come from the fact it sells regardless of the quality.
 

Good luck with that...
I'm sooooooooooooo tired of people wanting others to pay their way, or their kids' way. I remember when the "fund me" campaigns were for people in a financial bind and truly having a need for cash for medical bills, etc, now it's just a begging mechanism and spoiled what I felt was it's original intent.
I pay my own way in life, or my families way and nobody elses! I'm so damn mean spirited!!
 
Good luck with that...
I'm sooooooooooooo tired of people wanting others to pay their way, or their kids' way. I remember when the "fund me" campaigns were for people in a financial bind and truly having a need for cash for medical bills, etc, now it's just a begging mechanism and spoiled what I felt was it's original intent.
I pay my own way in life, or my families way and nobody elses! I'm so damn mean spirited!!

How long is it going to take them to build the brewery? 2 years? That means he would have to save $137 a month to find his own trip. Get a ******* job, save $65 a paycheck, and stop asking for ******* handouts.

Jesus Christ people piss me off these days.

You guys are bad at internet.
 
RateBeer threads are just so difficult to read, and I don't mean because of the ****** forum layout. Every one always feels absurdly disjointed, like people there are just talking to themselves even when they are ostensibly replying to someone else. It's like a really ****** stream of consciousness or something.

Yeah we're above that over here
 
RateBeer threads are just so difficult to read, and I don't mean because of the ****** forum layout. Every one always feels absurdly disjointed, like people there are just talking to themselves even when they are ostensibly replying to someone else. It's like a really ****** stream of consciousness or something.
I like turtles.
 
It's like a really ****** stream of consciousness or something.

So AMIRITE? I'm sitting here watching X-Files with my dog, Bella (who's a pretty badass dog, she runs around barking at the thunder...not skurred...but pissed off. Must be her german ancestry, she wants to bite the thundar!), so anyway, I'm thinking about Greg and wondering about how this whole ****** thing blew up in his face. I mean, I get trying to engage zie Germans into 'Murrican Beer but when you're begging for loot from people across the whole country and the only 2 pickups are San Diego and ******' Berlin...makes it hard for the homers. And ****, Skully was hot, I wonder if sex crazed Mulder ever tapped that. And his suits had shoulderpads, ******' 90's.

Actually I loved the 90's, **** was comin' up and we didn't have nearly the ******** we have to deal with nowadays. ******' Obama and religioius radical nutjobs and all. But hell, the beer kinda sucked. Just wish I could take today's beer, my current salary and teletimewarpport back to '96. That'd be pretty cool, gas was 85cents a ******* gallon. I'd ******* drive to Portland every weekend just to get beer. Except I live in San Diego which has the best beer period. But Portland still rocks, they have water up there.

So with all these new breweries opening down here, 91 as of today, I wonder when it will become oversaturated. As is it's damn hard to keep up with everyone anymore. And shitballz, Keeping up with breweries in central Diego let alone all the new ones up in north county, it's just tough. First world problems for sure but dammit, at least the Sharia nutjobs aren't blowing up breweries. Then it'd be time to rally the troops and protect our way of life. Blow up my IPAs, well **** YOU!

Hell, I'm even drinking a Founders Breakfast Stout I brought back with me from a trip to TX. Man, TX beer needs to come a LONG way. But some other guy I was talking to on this site was telling me his homebrew club in Chicago just found out about Westy 12 and west coast style IPA. Now, I know those gomers in Vermont started making some ****** packaged ButtHeady beer and they're, like gods, or something. But ****, it's not that complicated. Hell Stone is probably isn't even in the top 20 breweries in San Diego, and yet everyone I go outside of the state people think I must go there a lot. BORING. Besides, if Greg's been drinking his own product, I have to wonder if they're brewing with leaded pipes, that guy is losing it.

His beard is getting way out of control and even a 6 month walkabout didn't seem to fix it. Maybe they're brewin' with meth. Maybe they're making meth, but he ain't no Heisenberg. Just twitchy and sounding like some business motiviation speaker, talkin' aboot "Brewing out of the Box" and whatever other BS. Sadly, like the Padres, they take more swings and misses than home runs when it comes to their overboard Collabs and Anni beers. I do like Enjoy By, damn tasty. I can leave the rest. But after being in the local craft beer scene for a decade, I did start to cut my teeth on Stone back at Mata Way. Before Chase gave up and ventured off to focus on the craft and not making $$$.

I wonder if Aliens actually exist. They probably do but figure we're going to kill ourselves anyway. Humans are pretty stupid. Not all, but 99%. I mean, ****, even if global warming is athrop-whatever it really doesn't mean jack ****. We won't be able to stop it, try changing the minds of 1B people, let alone 3B people. Stupid liberals, all they're going to do is drive the cost of everything up and it's not like my boss is paying us anymore. And what the **** is with $8 pints of beer!! It's ******' redonk. Makes me want to homebrew more. A lot more. Corny kegs used to be $15 but now are a steal if you can find them for $50. I feel bad for anyone getting into the hobby now, all that SS is getting $$. That's how life goes, but at least more people are brewin' and hopefully learnin'.

I wish my dog could drink beer without the hops killing her. She loves to stay up late with me watching Xfiles and encouraging me to have another. She loves to stay up late and she doesn't judge. What a fine critter. Too bad I can't share this with her because that would be pretty ******' awesome. Cats though, would want wine spritzers or cosmos. Don't like cats, they have poor choices in libations. I think I'm going to watch the next episode of Xfiles. This one is about voodoo, which is cool and all, but I prefer aliens. Damn that dude got buried alive. ****, I hate sitting around in bars packed with fat guys, I can't imagine being in a box and not being able to move. Like Comic Con, the one weekend of the year that the super dorks leave their homes. Although some girls do dress up like sluts, that's always pretty cool. I wonder if I could bring beer in? It'd be like a crazy party full of wild ****.

Aliens, yes/no? How do I setup a poll? With sub options about anal probing and turning cows inside out for fun. Ha, this reminds me of the movie Evolution, also with Mulder and Stiffler. I don't know why, but Juliann Moore is kinda hot.

Holy ****, I checked my old Hotmail account. I don't know why they did all this new security crap, but I can't log in like I used to. So today it worked and I have 268 emails to root through. Man this sucks. All spam...some 20 mins later. But at least I know which brewery emails I need to update. Stupid hotmail.

****, Bella's farts are bad. That bitch can clear a room. And she only poops in the back yard, she won't drop turds anywhere else. Just wish some breweries won't release their turds and just send them down the drain where they belong. I"m getting tired. Time to take a shower and make beer in the morning.

Peace out *******.
 
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