American IPA Stone Ruination Clone

[moscoeb]

Made this today, missed expected OG by .002!

Hopeful and can't wait till I can try this one.

 

[ChickenSandwichCarl]

So here's my partial mash BIAB recipe for this Ruination Clone. I plugged into into beer smith and everything looks good except it keeps predicting a FG 1.017 instead of the 1.012 to I'm looking for. I can't figure out why this is happening. I'm assuming it has to do with amount of fermentables that beersmith is assuming I'll get out of my mash, or what they have listed for the yield for the grains?

Sorry if this is a noob question, but I'm a noob.



8 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 65.5 %
11.4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 5.8 %
3 lbs 8.0 oz Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 3 28.7 %
2.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 101.3 IBUs
1.75 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 5 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) [35.49 ml] Yeast 6 -
2.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 7 0.0 IBUs

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.072 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.017 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.2 %
Bitterness: 106.5 IBUs
Est Color: 9.9 SRM

Mash

60 minutes at 152 in 15.5 quarts
Dunk Sparge for 10 minutes in 4 quarts

Combine w/ DME and boil for 90 adding hops at prescribed times

Add water into fermenter to make 5 gal(hop calculations are taking this into account, i hope)

 

[Yooper]

So here's my partial mash BIAB recipe for this Ruination Clone. I plugged into into beer smith and everything looks good except it keeps predicting a FG 1.017 instead of the 1.012 to I'm looking for. I can't figure out why this is happening. I'm assuming it has to do with amount of fermentables that beersmith is assuming I'll get out of my mash, or what they have listed for the yield for the grains?

Software simply guestimates a % of the OG, and doesn't take into account the ingredients or the fermentability of the ingredients. You can ignore any FG predictions from any software.

 

[BadDeacon]

All,

I am new to brewing and wanted to make this for a buddy that took my son hunting. I am set up for Extract on a 6.5 gal turkey fryer and have a few questions:

1) Hops: All the recipes I see are for partial boils. Should I back off the amount of hops because I am doing a full boil??? and still split the recipe 4lb (60 min) & 4 lb (flameout)???
2) Yeast: I don't know how to do a starter but am planning on using a Pacman Wyeast smacpac. SHould I picth 2 instead r will one do OK? I have not had problems in the past, but my OG was 1.06 before on other recipes.
3) On the crystal, should I buy milled/crushed or uncrushed??

Thanks Folks!

Bad Deacon

 

[badbrew]

All,

I am new to brewing and wanted to make this for a buddy that took my son hunting. I am set up for Extract on a 6.5 gal turkey fryer and have a few questions:

1) Hops: All the recipes I see are for partial boils. Should I back off the amount of hops because I am doing a full boil??? and still split the recipe 4lb (60 min) & 4 lb (flameout)???
2) Yeast: I don't know how to do a starter but am planning on using a Pacman Wyeast smacpac. SHould I picth 2 instead r will one do OK? I have not had problems in the past, but my OG was 1.06 before on other recipes.
3) On the crystal, should I buy milled/crushed or uncrushed??

Thanks Folks!

Bad Deacon

You want all grains crushed.
You should use the recipe hops with a full boil.
You should use 2 and a half brand new smack packs or 4 average aged packs. A starter is pretty much needed. You can try 2 packets of us-05 instead if you can.

 

[BadDeacon]

Thanks! I think I might need to jump into starters sooner than later! I used safale-5 with my first brew but had trouble with temp on day 3.

I see a temp control for the extra fridge and extra carboys in my new near future! This startup coat is killing me!

 

[moscoeb]

Thanks! I think I might need to jump into starters sooner than later! I used safale-5 with my first brew but had trouble with temp on day 3.

I see a temp control for the extra fridge and extra carboys in my new near future! This startup coat is killing me!

I used two vials when I made mine, took it about 12 hrs to start. Should use a starter next time, but two vials were fine in a pinch.

 

[Petekiteworld]

Crush grains, normal hops, use 2 s05 packets which is the cost of 1 wyeast.

 

[satownsend]

I've been holding off on brewing IPAs for when I could do full wort boils. Got a 10 gallon brew pot for Christmas so I'm ordering ingredients for this now. I can't wait to try it.

 

[TriggerFingers]

I tried one for the first time last night. Seemed a little "green" and it hasn't carbed up properly yet. There is a slight hiss and larger head bubbles, but it was sitting since bottling --3 weeks--at about 50 degrees (so I moved it into the laundry room where it is a bit warmer). My initial impression is it tastes very resinous with a nice caramel note. Its definitely a DIPA and I can't help but think that some age will improve this considerably (maybe about a month or so). It tastes to me "bigger" than the 8% that it is--more like a Barleywine. As I sipped it, I kept thinking it had more of the flavor of SN Bigfoot rather than Ruination--but I must admit...its pretty tasty. I will crack one in a few weeks with an update.

TF

 

[SoCalMark]

Getting ready to finish this one up shortly. OG was 1.076 and FG is 1.010. On the fence between kegging and bottling. Will sleep on it and decide tomorrow.

 

[moscoeb]

Getting ready to finish this one up shortly. OG was 1.076 and FG is 1.010. On the fence between kegging and bottling. Will sleep on it and decide tomorrow.

I racked to secondary a few days ago, my gravity sample read about 1.024, did you notice this too. It's been in primary for 3-4 weeks.
I have never done a beer this big, I know they take longer though.

 

[SoCalMark]

Mine actually came in pretty close to my FG out of primary (two weeks). Did you use a yeast starter? I've noticed significantly better results since I started making starters, especially for the big beers. Hope it comes into shape soon!

 

[moscoeb]

Mine actually came in pretty close to my FG out of primary (two weeks). Did you use a yeast starter? I've noticed significantly better results since I started making starters, especially for the big beers. Hope it comes into shape soon!

I didn't have time to use a starter, but I did pitch two packs.
Eh, I'll check it in a few days, if it's still the same, bottle it. If not I'll let her ride.
Thanks!

Starters are my New Years plans, I've been meaning to get into them. No reason not to!

 

[badbrew]

Getting ready to finish this one up shortly. OG was 1.076 and FG is 1.010. On the fence between kegging and bottling. Will sleep on it and decide tomorrow.

keg it, let it carb up, bottle a few 6ers off the full keg and leave the rest.

 

[bcunning82]

I am thinking about making a ruination clone for my next batch and have been looking up recipes. All of the extract recipes I have found seem to be light on the extract(dry or liquid) I have plugged a bunch (including BYO, and several from this post)of them into Beercalculus and can never get the OG to be calculated up past 1.070, while the recipes call out anywhere from 1.072-1.077. Am I missing something? Beer calculus is set up for a 5 gal batch with a 5.6gal boil volume.

 

[Guidry]

First, I would look to adjust the batch volume up. A five gallon batch is going to leave with little, if any, over 4 after fermenting and dry hopping. I usually shoot for 5.5 into the fermenter and maybe even more when dry hopping. Also, in my experience, I lie a lot more than .6 gals during boil, in combination of evaporation and trub loss. This beer has a lot of hops added which will absorb a good amount if fluid, the majority of which should probably be left out if the fermenter.

 

[SoCalMark]

My hydro sample. Tastes fantastic!

 

[moscoeb]

My hydro sample. Tastes fantastic!

Mine came down to 1.010 finally, and the hydro sample tasted really good too! I put it in the fridge and will try some more tomorrow.
Excited about this one, it might be better than the real thing!

 

[H22W]

This weekend I did a Columbus/Centennial version of this. Pacman yeast chewing through it at 59F!

 

[j2bink]

Just made this again with some of my tweaks. To my disappointment my og was only 1.058. 13.5 lbs of two row... was planning on much better efficiency since my run off was so little and full conversion tool place after an iodine test

 

[TrickyMike]

Got everything prepped to cook up a batch of this today.
Couldn't get Pacman, so I'm using a 3L starter of Wyeast 1056. I've been making some really lightly hopped beers lately... Psyched to get a hop monster on tap.

 

[orangemen5]

Did an extract version of this about two months ago. Not much bitterness to it at all. Used 2oz of magnum 12.4% AA @60. I do full boils on a propane burner for better hop utilization. I did one other ipa before that bitterness seemed good so I'm thinking its not my water. Trying to figure it out

 

[bguzz]

so wlp007 or pacman? I thought Stone uses pretty much WLP007 for this one?

 

[drjadco]

Best beer I've made so far. Well done. This is one I will keep for a Long time.

 

[twalte]

I have a 2 Liter starter of WLP002 (English Ale Yeast) ready to go, but decided to change my brew to an IPA. Would this recipe work with English Ale yeast, or am I better off doing a new starter? (I have Super San Diego available to make a starter, and I could save my English Ale yeast). However, I would prefer to use my existing starter today if possible.

(I have never used WLP002, so not sure what to expect)

Thanks for your input!!

 

[twalte]

Thanks LA Brewer. I saw mixed responses for using WLP002 with APA on some other forums, so the Stone link puts me at ease!

 

[jammin]

I have a 2 Liter starter of WLP002 (English Ale Yeast) ready to go, but decided to change my brew to an IPA. Would this recipe work with English Ale yeast, or am I better off doing a new starter? (I have Super San Diego available to make a starter, and I could save my English Ale yeast). However, I would prefer to use my existing starter today if possible.

(I have never used WLP002, so not sure what to expect)

Thanks for your input!!

My buddy brewed a Ruination clone with Wyeast 1968 (same as WLP 002). The malt and hops were very close, but the yeast character was quite noticeably different between the real thing. I'm a huge Ruination fan and I think 007 is worth it if you want it to be as close as possible.

 

[4traindays]

Planning on brewing this tomorrow, doing a partial boil 3.5 gallons. I'll be following the same hop schedule, and will be using 8 lbs of Dme and the one lb of crystal 20. what should I be looking for as far as og, fg, and ibus? Can't wait for the final product! Thanks for the replies.

 

[twalte]

Planning on brewing this tomorrow, doing a partial boil 3.5 gallons. I'll be following the same hop schedule, and will be using 8 lbs of Dme and the one lb of crystal 20. what should I be looking for as far as og, fg, and ibus? Can't wait for the final product! Thanks for the replies.

It's at the top of the recipe

Original Gravity: 1.077
Final Gravity: 1.013
IBU: 103+