Star Wars VII

[dudius]

They don't need to more movies about Luke Han and Leia they have books for that part of the story. They need to branch off for new characters maybe Luke's son Ben. Or let Pixar work their magic with old republic stories.

According to George Lucas, he really didn't want any of the Expanded Universe to exist the way it does. I'm thinking he sacrificed the integrity of Star Wars for the cash. But to him, none of it is canon. Which means episodes 7-9 will be original stories that might even contradict the EU.

Something I forgot to mention that I kind of hope Disney pulls off is the live-action TV series that was in talks a few years back. I know they tried to do Clone Wars and I forgot what the live-action show was supposed to be. Obviously Clone Wars got picked up by Cartoon Network and marketed as a show for tweens. I imagined the live-action show would be along the lines of how Sarah Connor Chronicles turned out. I'm thinking Disney might end up backing the show just to see if it takes off. Disney is definitely known for throwing money at stuff just to see what happens.

 

[Homercidal]

Tons of people hate on George. They hate the changes he made. They hate the direction and creative development of the later movies. This is not some internet undercurrent. It's worldwide knowledge.

The only thing that kept SW from going back to the direction that made them good films was George Lucas.

Disney cannot possible ignore the massive plea for SW to return to it's glory days. They will continue the story beyond Luke and Leia and Han Solo. The droids will continue the story as has been George's direction since day one. They might possible focus on the grown children of Luke and Han/Leia.

I'm pretty sure if I were in charge I could manage to make the film somewhat serious in plot while having comic relief in small does via the 2 droids and a few offhand comments from the main characters. This means NO JAR-JAR or jar-jar like characters. Throw in lots of cool spaceships and a couple of bad guys that you want to hate, but enjoy watching.

Bottom line is that this stuff shouldn't be hard to do. I remember back in the day when I first watching SW. I think I was like 9. I could handle the action and violence. The droids were funny. Later the Ewoks were kind of silly, but it was easy to ignore them and focus on the plot. Jar-Jar was just too out there to ignore. Was Lucas trying to sell SW to toddlers???

Just make an adult film.

 

[Bensiff]

Lucas had a great idea, did wonders with it; but, yeah, he shouldn't be allowed to write. I'd be happy to see any future movies based on Timothy Zahn's work, which is far and away the best Star Wars books I have ever read (granted outside of his I have only read 3-4 others).

 

[JonM]

I keep hearing "Will Disney ruin Star Wars?" That's not the question. It's already ruined. The question should be "Is Disney up to the task of redeeming Star Wars?"

 

[todd_k]

Perhaps they could make webisodes or Pixar shorts out of Tales From the Mos Eisley Cantina. I would watch that.

 

[Homercidal]

I enjoyed the Zahn SW books, but I didn't really think he did a great job with character development or dialogue. The stories were great, nonetheless.

I really doubt they will use his books as source. I expect they will want to create a fresh story.

 

[kombat]

Oh well! Why fight it? I'll go ahead and hate him a LOT.

F()ck George. He looks so bored and Gay. (please pardon me, this my inner child who doesn't yet know the actual meaning of "gay")
With his "I'm a rich ugly guy" gotee and his ex-nerd chip on his shoulder. I want a tee that says "F*** George Lucas"

Wow. That seems unnecessarily harsh. He's a real person, you know. If you ran into him on the street, would you say such things to his face?

Why?

Because he made a movie you didn't like?

What if he wrote a book you didn't like? Or painted a picture you didn't like? Would you still call him a "rich ugly guy" who looks "bored and gay?"

Seriously? WTF is wrong with you?

THEY'RE MOVIES. If he likes the films he made, but you don't, why would you literally "hate" him? Do you understand how silly that sounds? Why would you hate someone who makes art you don't like? To be clear - it's not offensive to you. You just didn't like the movies. Doesn't GL have the right to make whatever films he wants? Just like YOU do?

This is insane.

 

[Homercidal]

Ya know, I kinda hate Spielberg ever since he replaced the guns in E.T. with walkie talkies. Still waiting for him to come out with the Special Digital Edition of Schindler's List, with all of the guns swapped out for cell phones...

 

[Bensiff]

I was just reading that they are looking for at an all original story, probably what Lucas had originally thought up and hopefully he will only get to relay ideas and let someone who can actually write take it from there.

 

[TxBrew]

I would like to see some old republic story lines come out of this.

Maybe some Old Han stories?

 

[Cambone]

Disney is also responsible for the recent Marvel stuff like Iron Man 2, Captain America, Thor, and Avengers. Those weren't anywhere near as bad as anything Lucas has directed in recent years.

This is why I have my hopes up. In fact Iron Man was downright great. Star Wars peaked with ESB, you know it, i know it and the American people know it.

 

[Cambone]

Wow. That seems unnecessarily harsh. He's a real person, you know. If you ran into him on the street, would you say such things to his face?

Why?

Because he made a movie you didn't like?

What if he wrote a book you didn't like? Or painted a picture you didn't like? Would you still call him a "rich ugly guy" who looks "bored and gay?"

Seriously? WTF is wrong with you?

THEY'RE MOVIES. If he likes the films he made, but you don't, why would you literally "hate" him? Do you understand how silly that sounds? Why would you hate someone who makes are you don't like? To be clear - it's not offensive to you. You just didn't like the movies. Doesn't GL have the right to make whatever films he wants? Just like YOU do?

This is insane.

What sounds silly is this rebuttal. Are you familiar with cheezy?

 

[kombat]

What sounds silly is this rebuttal. Are you familiar with cheezy?

I admit, I'm not. Did I get troll-baited?

 

[Cambone]

I admit, I'm not. Did I get troll-baited?

Likely.

Here was my first exposure to his "antics"

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f19/christmas-beer-279413/#post3466760

Start reading from post #10 onwards

 

[dstranger99]

The entire franchise should have ended with 1983's Return Of The Jedi......The prequals just ruined a perfecty fine original trilogy.........

 

[kombat]

The entire franchise should have ended with 1983's Return Of The Jedi......The prequals just ruined a perfecty fine original trilogy.........

I dunno, I kinda liked "Revenge of the Sith."

 

[JonM]

The entire franchise should have ended with 1983's Return Of The Jedi......The prequals just ruined a perfecty fine original trilogy.........

"Mitichlorians." 'Nuff said.

 

[Cambone]

If you think Return of the Jedi is good, that's fine I get that; but you're wrong and I hate you.

 

[dstranger99]

If you think Return of the Jedi is good, that's fine I get that; but you're wrong and I hate you.

The ewok's ruined it for me, but the beginning & ending of the film was fine..Lucas just really screwed himself in the middle of the film with those ewok's, he made the same blunder with Jar Jar Binks in "Phantom Menace"....

 

[Qhrumphf]

I'll admit I have a soft spot for the Ewoks, but that's probably because I was very young when I first saw that movie, and you know how little kids are with things that look like teddy bears.

 

[Homercidal]

I'll admit I have a soft spot for the Ewoks, but that's probably because I was very young when I first saw that movie, and you know how little kids are with things that look like teddy bears.

You're a Furry now, aren't you?

 

[stamandster]

You guys all know that there are "episodes" 7, 8 and 9 already written right?

 

[edmanster]

i think disney should hand this project over to marvel.. eventhough disney own marvel they still let marvel do there own thing without interfering much.. i think thats due to pixars president which is also president of disneys studios.. i think he understands that artistic and creative differences are a good thing and lead to better results.. especially when you have oppisite genre's involved!!

 

[Leithoa]

Completely agree with Cambone here, The original trilogy peaked at episode V. here's my theory. Episode IV was awesome and a gamble, the producers knew it was a good story but weren't sure if there was enough of a market for this 'sci-fi' stuff. A New Hope proved itself at the box office and so they made Empire Strikes back but actually gave it a respectable budget. By now Star Wars was a 'thing' and the studio was raking in the money. Return of the Jedi was given carte blanche and Lucas decided the movies needed to be lighter and we got stuck with cheesy droid comic relief, but all in all not a terrible movie. Episodes I-III are best summed up by this little diddy:

 

[edmanster]

my thoughts exactly

 

[cheezydemon3]

my thoughts exactly

I returned Episode 2 to the video store after watching 30 minutes and demanded my money back.

My "sense of duty" died when I watched the first piece of crap.....in the damned theater...

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I enjoyed them all for what they were, a way to kill a couple hours in front of a screen.

Never did get all that deep into it.

 

[Bensiff]

I grew up with Star Wars and have always loved it, so I'm excited...just hope I don't get disappointed again. In the meantime, I'm far more excited about The Hobbit.

 

[TheCarnie]

I've enjoyed all 6 of them, it doesn't mean I don't hate Jar Jar.

 

[JonM]

I grew up with Star Wars and have always loved it, so I'm excited...just hope I don't get disappointed again. In the meantime, I'm far more excited about The Hobbit.

Boom. My thoughts exactly. Well said.