Spent Grain? Make Your Best Friend Cookies!

[BEER_4_BREAKFAST]

Thanks for the recipe. I'm gonna make some for my Labradoodle.

 

[slimer]

I liked my recipe with 3 cups of flour and grains instead of the 4.

 

[schweaty]

I must admit I tried one as well. They wouldn't be so bad if they were soft and had more sugar. In comparison to other dog treats I have tasted, I'd have to say these are my favorite

 

[thevalkrye]

"The poop iz fo teh buzz and dah Kookeez is fo dah muncheez"..........ha ha ha ha good one!!

 

[TerapinChef]

My two pit's love these things...I tried to make a batch for myself adding a little bit of sugar but they weren't much better than the dog's batch...next time I'll cut back on the flour, add a bit of honey and brown sugar, and not give them the long bake treatment.

FYI, after I cut them, I just turn the oven down to warm and leave them in overnight...

 

[Schlenkerla]

My two pit's love these things...I tried to make a batch for myself adding a little bit of sugar but they weren't much better than the dog's batch...next time I'll cut back on the flour, add a bit of honey and brown sugar, and not give them the long bake treatment.

FYI, after I cut them, I just turn the oven down to warm and leave them in overnight...

This is totally cool!!! :rockin:


My dog Buzz will be a Beer Cookie Snob & an EAC



Irish Red - Dog Cookies
BierMunchers Cream of 3 Crop - Dog Cookies
Orfy's Hobgoblin - Dog Cookies
Edwort's Haus Ale - Dog Cookies.

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[Dr_Deathweed]

Sorry, I apologize to the OP, this will be the last time I sidetrack this thread unless someone later has a specific nutritional or veterinary question.

The quote you provided only mentioned vegetable food sources as minor sources of nutrition and animal protein and fat as the primary source of nutrition. Sounds like a carnivore that enjoys sweets (fruit) when available.

That is the problem with quoting out of a giant veterinary tome, or trying to paraphrase a field where extensive research has been been preformed; you can't quite get all the info into one post without your fingers falling off and/or exceeding the 10,000 character limit.

The definition of omnivore is "having a diet that consists of both plant and animal matter", (paraphrased out of Dorlands Medical Dictionary 30th ed.) but can be expanded to, "a creature that is both able and willing to ingest, digest, and metabolize both plant and animal materials as part of their normal diet." To keep from having to quote from the multitude of reliable, peer-reviewed sources out there, I will stick to quoting from "Small Animal Clinical Nutrition," but will post further sources if you so wish. If you do not wish to stick to the admittedly dry and boring scientific literature, I am sure a goggle search will come up with similar information, but will also abound with misconstrued ideals on pet nutrition which are backed up only on "feeling" and not on "fact."

You mention plant matter as "treats," and "minor sources of nutrition." Further reading in "Small Animal Clinical Nutrition" mentions that not only do wild canids readily ingest plant material in various forms when prey is plentiful, but when animal prey is scarce they can subsist solely on plant material until their next kill. Research into the nutritional requirements of dogs that compared diets between those fed a balanced animal diet and those fed a balanced vegetable diet showed no difference between the groups. These studies and observations show that dogs are willing to ingest, digest, and are physiologically able to metabolize plant and animal material, giving them the title of omnivore.

I'm sure you enjoy candy at times, but you don't expect to eat candy for a meal. I think with dogs, vegetable sources of food should be treated the same way and not the primary source of nutrition as it is in most "dog food".

Yes, I do enjoy candy, and no it is not my primary source of nutrition (usually) However I also do not eat meat for every meal, and the majority of my dietary intake is from plant material (pastas, bread, beans, rice, etc.), does this make me a herbivore? Of course not! Just because a vegetarian eats no meat products, does that make them a herbivore? No! Because as a human, we are able to ingest, digest, and metabolize both plant and animal materials.

Yes sir, you are also correct that many dog food diets contain a good amount of plant material (corn, rice, potato, etc.), and this is for a multitude of reasons:
-Caloric density: Starches from plant material is much more caloricly dense than meat products. this way you do not have to feed your dog 20lbs of dog food a day.
-Ability to utilize plant material: Addressed above.
-ability to store: I do not know about you, but last time I tried to keep a bag of buffalo guts around.....
-Expense: Yes, economics do take a part, as they take a part in everything else in our lives.

If you are still convinced that your pet should subsist on a majority animal product diet, there are some very good resources out there, but I urge you to PLEASE talk to your vet about formulating a well balanced diet to optimize your pets health, or find a good, credible, certified veterinary nutritionist to help develop a diet. For the majority of us that do not have the time or money to cook and prepare for ourselves, let alone our pets, any brand name (not store brand) dog food out there has been tested to be balanced for your pets nutrition.

If you have further specific questions about your pet, please consult your vet.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Deathweed - Are you a Vet just a nutritionist? OK a vet in Training. Looked at your profile...

 

[LibertyBrewer]

We live out in the country, and I can tell you dogs like eating grain. Most dogs don't have a problem eating sweet feed. My dogs will eat the spent grain without having to add anything to it. I usually put it out for the horses. If they are not around, the dogs get some before they show up.

 

[BlackenedBrew]

My dog Buzz will be a Beer Cookie Snob & an EAC

Ok, I've done a few searches of forums, checked out the Brew Wiki, Wikipedia, Urban Dictionary, and just a Google search... can't find it...

I know I'm going to get totally pwned for being a n00b, but I guess that's the price of admission... Can someone please tell me what an EAC is?

 

[Schlenkerla]

Ok, I've done a few searches of forums, checked out the Brew Wiki, Wikipedia, Urban Dictionary, and just a Google search... can't find it...

I know I'm going to get totally pwned for being a n00b, but I guess that's the price of admission... Can someone please tell me what an EAC is?

Its imbedded somewhere in this forum. You have to search and read. The original post where this term gets coined is priceless. Therefore my telling you will spoil that, try do several searches you'll find it sooner or later. Some of the posts will have links to the original thread. Search and yea shall find....

And yes its a right of passage! :rockin:

 

[Danek]

Can someone please tell me what an EAC is?

Sluts With Mighty Big Orifices.

Oh, sorry - wrong one.

 

[BlackenedBrew]

Its imbedded somewhere in this forum. You have to search and read. The original post where this term gets coined is priceless. Therefore my telling you will spoil that, try do several searches you'll find it sooner or later. Some of the posts will have links to the original thread. Search and yea shall find....

And yes its a right of passage! :rockin:

Every time I do a search for EAC, I get:

The following errors occurred with your search:
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

 

[Beerrific]

Every time I do a search for EAC, I get:

Even though this is getting the thread further

A home brewing beer and wine making civilized discussion community. Also with beer/wine/mead/cider discussion, pub talk, and general chit-chat. - Search Results for EAC

 

[Schlenkerla]

Every time I do a search for EAC, I get:

See this link, it leads to another... read in detail.


https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/handy-acronyms-5349/

 

[schweaty]

Sorry, I apologize to the OP, this will be the last time I sidetrack this thread unless someone later has a specific nutritional or veterinary question.

No offense taken at all, please sidetrack as much as you like. It's good that someone as knowledgable as you clears up some of these concerns, questions and comments.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Hey Schweaty, Thanks for posting this. Buzz will enjoy the cookies!

 

[telemarc]

C'mon, let's keep this thread going a few more pages! My dog like beer! I like my dog! There, back on topic!:rockin:

 

[farmbrewernw]

Thanks I'm going to give this a try. I tried doing this after I received something similar from a beer fest at Rogue but they turned out awful probably because I did not have a drying step.

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

No offense taken at all, please sidetrack as much as you like. It's good that someone as knowledgable as you clears up some of these concerns, questions and comments.

Thanks I figured if I am dumping tens of thousands of dollars and years of my life on this education, I may as well try and help out my fellow homebrewers

Thanks for the recipe again, I have been wanting to make these for my dogs as well, but have always just copped out by dumping a few cups of grains on the ground straight out of the mash tun. I don't think they mind, they are getting a treat either way:cross:

 

[Beerrific]

Thanks for the recipe again, I have been wanting to make these for my dogs as well, but have always just copped out by dumping a few cups of grains on the ground straight out of the mash tun. I don't think they mind, they are getting a treat either way:cross:

Oh, I do this too. I think they enjoy brew day almost as much as I do.

 

[fireman291]

Awesome!!! my chocolate lab will probably love these things! get more bang for the buck! thanks

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

Oh, I do this too. I think they enjoy brew day almost as much as I do.

haha, yeah, it is all I can do sometimes to keep those noses out of my buckets of grains before I get to brew with them.....

 

[Kauai_Kahuna]

Of course, he also loves deer poop, so I don't think he's very discriminating.

Yooper,
This is going into my candidates for quotes.

 

[Kauai_Kahuna]

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If you have further specific questions about your pet, please consult your vet.

WoW, Not minding that I fell asleep halfway through reading this, but, WoW.
I got a few dogs that tend to think I'm a cat walking by. Maybe I'll make some of this up and see if I can convince them I'm not the anti-christ.

 

[Beerrific]

Well, not too far off this thread's topic:
Man's best friend adds new challenge to brew day - BrewBoard

The reports of hops causing problems in dogs seem to be few in far between, but this is a report from a fellow homebrewer that ended up in the vet's office after fido ate some EKG.

I have a dog that will eat anything that I drop in the kitchen (coffe beans, zucchini stems, you name it). When I am messing with hops, they are not allowed in the kitchen and I check the floor before they come back in.

 

[MikeG]

I'm an extract brewer that only uses the 1lb or so of specialty grains. Are the the same things or are they OK to use in the recipe?

 

[Beerrific]

I'm an extract brewer that only uses the 1lb or so of specialty grains. Are the the same things or are they OK to use in the recipe?

Yup, same thing. Will work just fine. Might consider giving them a rinse with tap water if you think they are too sweet (this will depend on your steeping process).

 

[rasherb]

I'm an extract brewer that only uses the 1lb or so of specialty grains. Are the the same things or are they OK to use in the recipe?

Same stuff. Go for it.

My dogs love these. They are mini dachshunds and I can't find treats small enough for them, but these I can custom cut nice and tiny. They also love to clean up the falling grain when I use my corona.

 

[MikeG]

Oh, I've got 2 9# yorkies so my 1-1.5# of grains is enough . And yes, I'm secure enough in my masculinity to walk them in public!