Speidel Braumeister (brewmaster)

[lylo]

goodgodilovebeer,that is the same plug end I used except mine doesn't have the twist feature.The end that goes to the BM is a computer power type config.Keep us posted on your progress.

 

[psehorne]

Thanks psehorne! Did you end up going this route?

Yes. I bought one of each length.

 

[NWMushroom]

So close to pulling the trigger on this... even got a tentative OK from the wife for the 20L.

Some questions:

For the 20L

AC Power Cord L6-20 Plug to IEC 60320 C13 Connector 15 Feet 15a/250v 14/3

1. Is that cord all I need to get going? No assembly required? I just plug it into the 220v stove socket, right?

2. I don't want to spend all this money only to still need to mess around sparging. What kind of efficiency can I expect without sparging?

3. When doing a no-Sparge, roughly how much grain can the 20l reliably hold without issue?

4. Are morebeer and morebeer4u the only US distributors?

Thanks!

 

[Alchemy]

So close to pulling the trigger on this... even got a tentative OK from the wife for the 20L.

Some questions:

1. Is that cord all I need to get going? No assembly required? I just plug it into the 220v stove socket, right?

2. I don't want to spend all this money only to still need to mess around sparging. What kind of efficiency can I expect without sparging?

3. When doing a no-Sparge, roughly how much grain can the 20l reliably hold without issue?

4. Are morebeer and morebeer4u the only US distributors?

Thanks!

1. Yup! I made my own cord since the plug I had in my brewery is a 3 prong 240 but i plan on ordering one of those for when I brew outside in order to use my 220 dryer outlet. The c13 to 220 that you linked should work for you.
2. I have gotten about 75 to 80 on average
3. Around 13lbs is the max as far as I am concerned , others might have had a different experience but for me at 13lbs the mash is very tight packed and channeling becomes an issue with any more grain.
4. The only ones I have seen yes.

 

[Alchemy]

Edit: duplicate

 

[psehorne]

1. Is that cord all I need to get going? No assembly required? I just plug it into the 220v stove socket, right?

No. Sorry if I misled you. The male plug on the cord I linked you to is NOT a mate to an electric clothes dryer outlet. It requires a matching L20-6R receptacle available at most local hardware stores.

 

[NWMushroom]

No. Sorry if I misled you. The male plug on the cord I linked you to is NOT a mate to an electric clothes dryer outlet. It requires a matching L20-6R receptacle available at most local hardware stores.

OK. So am I right in thinking I need the cord you linked to AND the l20-6R receptacle? I'm having trouble picturing this is my head.

Am I right in guessing the receptacle plugs into my stove outlet, then the cable you linked to plugs into the receptacle? I then just connect the Braumeister to the cable: http://www.stayonline.com/detail.aspx?id=8951

 

[psehorne]

OK. So am I right in thinking I need the cord you linked to AND the l20-6R receptacle? I'm having trouble picturing this is my head.

Am I right in guessing the receptacle plugs into my stove outlet, then the cable you linked to plugs into the receptacle? I then just connect the Braumeister to the cable: http://www.stayonline.com/detail.aspx?id=8951

No. Your clothes dryer plug would need to be replaced with the L20-6R... probably not something that you want to do. I installed a separate L20-6R receptacle at my brew station, not in my utility room where the clothes dryer resides.

I did not realize that you wanted to user your clothes dryer outlet. If you want to use your clothes dryer outlet then you need to make up a cord with the proper matching plug and a C13 plug on the other.

EDIT: Sorry, I had clothes dryer on my mind for some reason. I should have stated that the L20-6 is not the same as the receptacle for your stove (nor your clothes dryer).

 

[NWMushroom]

I think I get it now, thanks! So basically there's no simple plugin adapter for US stove/drier 220v plug to German 220v plug then?

 

[psehorne]

I think I get it now, thanks! So basically there's no simple plugin adapter for US stove/drier 220v plug to German 220v plug then?

Probably not. The stove/dryer connections are probably 50 to 60 amp connections. It is highly unlikely that anyone makes a 15 amp C13 to connect to a 50 amp circuit.

 

[tomatitotarifa]

Hello all BM users. I have a quick question regarding sanitation of the output nozzle (or tap, not sure of the name in English) of the machine. Do any of you dismantle it for a thorough cleaning/sanitizing before/after each use? It seems to me like it could harbour bacteria after each use and storage. Thanks for your help. Pedro (Spain)

 

[dinnerstick]

it gets pretty hot during the boil! i don't think any beer spoilage molds or bacteria are going to survive 1 hour at 100 degrees. i make sure to run a liter or so of boiling wort through it before chilling, and then run a lot of water through it when cleaning, but i have never disassembled mine. i have to say it is the least thrilling part of the BM, i think it is ripe for an upgrade. the flow is odd and it is prone to dripping, and recently the position of the arm for a fully closed valve shifted to a different angle on mine!

 

[John_Tomaszewski]

Hello,

After much research and a few emails with Ralf Leukert of Speidel I have opted to join the BM club and ordered a 20L unit. After finding the US dealer out of stock on this unit I found a dealer in Ireland which will ship to the USA. Even with the EUR to USD conversion my total cost was 1,739.01 - which is cheaper than morebeer @ 1,950.00. Something to remember if you are ordering from another country is to try and use a no foreign transaction fee credit card - if you have one - as it will save you 3-4% in conversion fees.

I have poured over this thread and think it will be invaluable in my upcoming learning curve with this unit. I am certainly no engineer or electrician, so the recent posts about "plug 'n play" L6-20 cords/receptacles have saved me a lot of legwork. I am ordering the suggested 15 foot cord - so I won't be splicing - and installing a new L6-20 twistlock receptacle in my brewing area.

Overall, despite the obviously high price tag, I think this unit will be a worthwhile replacement to a traditional 3v system which can cost quite a bit itself - along with the associated increased footprint and clean up times. I have been brewing for about 2 years starting with the usual progression from extract to partial-mash. This is my entry into the all-grain world and I hope it was the right decision

 

[NWMushroom]

How long were you quoted by the Irish dealer for delivery? I'd be curious to know if/what any import or customs fees turn out to be on the unit. Keep us updated!

 

[DeGarre]

NWMushroom, sparging (or rinsing) is really no big deal. Two first brews I did not, started with 23L and bottled 15L. Now I start with 26L and rinse with 6L (lately not boiled but hot tap water, the water is from my own well) and bottle 22-23L. I still hit the OG with 89% ME and get more beer - you do the math!

When the wort is draining into the kettle I start the boil. Wait a few minutes then I lift the malt pipe onto a bucket and upside turned lid to drain and rinse. I space it so that before it starts boiling I've done rinsing. Slowly does it. Could save some to make a starter later.

 

[DeGarre]

Hello all BM users. I have a quick question regarding sanitation of the output nozzle (or tap, not sure of the name in English) of the machine. Do any of you dismantle it for a thorough cleaning/sanitizing before/after each use? It seems to me like it could harbour bacteria after each use and storage. Thanks for your help. Pedro (Spain)

I've only ran boiling wort and cooled wort through it.

 

[goodgodilovebeer]

Sorry to change the current topic, but DeGarre kind of got me thinking about volumes and software.

For the more experienced users of the BM; Who's using BeerSmith 2 and what's your equipment profile looking like? I've taken screenshots of those posted earlier in the thread and thought it may be worth asking again since you guys have most likely fine-tuned the numbers by now based on experience. If anyone does post their BeerSmith equipment profile, it'd be good to know what changes to the BM system you've made.

 

[DeGarre]

I do my malt bill calcs on a spreadsheet. I input the gravity I want and the percentages of various grains. Spreadsheet calculates then the weight for each grain, and colour. Brewlength is set to 24L, I mash with 26 and rinse with 6, ME% set to 76 (don't ask). I get to bottle 22-23L and my actual ME% is usually 89.

So I went back to old school and it's just a question of knowing your brewing system and how it fits your method.

This I bottled 2 days ago, look at the clarity of that:

 

[goodgodilovebeer]

No chill haze there :rockin:

I kind of figured the best place to start on Beersmith is BIAB, and work on it from there. I'm not really obsessed with hitting numbers as long as I know what the gravity & volume is going into the boil so I can adjust for IBU's.

 

[tequilatom]

Ordered my 50L earlier today. Should arrive next week :rockin:

I will be among you soon!!! Mwaahaahaaa!

 

[NWMushroom]

Looking for an electrical expert here...

Looking at my stove outlet, the socket is printed with '250v 50A'. When I look in the circuit/breaker box in the house the circuit breaker for the stove is marked 40A.

Here is a picture of the stove outlet:

Here is a picture of the dryer outlet:

Here is a picture of the two breakers (dryer on left, stove on right).

I am a renter so can't install or change anything.

What are my options in terms of hooking up a Braumeister?

 

[Toggels]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002ITZTNO/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

I use a Step up or down transformer.... works great for me.. no issues...
20L Braumeister...

Several members have went this route...

Or just do the cord mod... plenty of pictures and instructions on the forum..

 

[Alchemy]

http://www.amazon.com/LiteFuze-Series-Voltage-Converter-Transformer/dp/B002ITZTNO/ref=cm_pdp_rev_itm_title_1

I use a Step up or down transformer.... works great for me.. no issues...
20L Braumeister...

Several members have went this route...

Or just do the cord mod... plenty of pictures and instructions on the forum..

I tried the step up step down and would not recommend it. Mine fried after 30 or so brews. Those things aren't meant for heating elements like a brew system. I even had the 5k watt ultra heavy uber one.

So much happier now that I built a cord. One less piece of hardware to worry about.

 

[NWMushroom]

How many amps does the 20L draw?

 

[psehorne]

How many amps does the 20L draw?

Approximately 10 amps. The manual specifies minimum fuse size as 10 amps. It states that the heating coil is 2000 watts and the pump motor 23 watts. This computes to a little less than 10 amps at 240 volts.

 

[NWMushroom]

My stove outlet is on a 40A circuit, so this will be OK then, right?

 

[Alchemy]

My stove outlet is on a 40A circuit, so this will be OK then, right?

Yup. 40 is plenty

 

[mellowmonk]

I have a plate chiller that I want to hook up to my Braumeister (to be shipped shortly) and am wondering what others have done to accomplish this. I was thinking I would just purchase the 9007-12-08 adapter and install a 1/2NPT ball valve like bach on pg 129 but I can't find it anywhere. Adaptall doesn't seem to make a SS 9007-12-08: http://www.adaptall.com/products/stainless/ss9007.html (they do have a carbon steel that is silver in color). Has everyone been able to find the adapter or are there any alternatives? Thanks!

 

[Toggels]

see page 159 of this forum for some adapter alt.

 

[mellowmonk]

Thanks! I checked that out but amazon stated that the part was only rated for 100 degrees F... I guess others aren't having any problems and for $6 i'll give it a shot