Sorachi Ace Hops - What have you done?

[nchapelle]

Lemonhead

Style: American Wheat or Rye Beer OG: 1.053
Type: All Grain FG: 1.016
Rating: 0.0 ABV: 4.85 %
Calories: 175 IBU's: 27.97
Efficiency: 70 % Boil Size: 5.83 Gal
Color: 3.9 SRM Batch Size: 5.00 Gal
Boil Time: 60 minutes

Grains & Adjuncts
Amount Percentage Name Gravity Color
7.00 lbs 70.00 % Wheat Malt, Ger 1.039 2.0
3.00 lbs 30.00 % Pale Malt (2 Row) US 1.036 2.0

Hops
Amount IBU's Name Time AA %
0.30 ozs 14.00 Nugget 60 mins 13.00
0.70 ozs 10.03 Sorachi Ace 10 mins 11.00
0.50 ozs 3.94 Sorachi Ace 05 mins 11.00

Yeasts
Amount Name Laboratory / ID
1.0 pkg Pacman Wyeast Labs

Additions
Amount Name Time Stage
1.00 oz Whirlfloc Tablet 15 mins Boil
1.00 oz Yeast Nutrient 15 mins Boil
2.00 oz Lemon Peel 10 mins Boil

Mash Profile
Light Body Infusion In 60 min @ 151.0°F
Add 12.50 qt ( 1.25 qt/lb ) water @ 167.5°F
Sparge
Sparge 18.02 qt of 170.0°F water over 60 mins

This is my American Wheat, great flavor nice spice and lemon notes.

 

[509inc]

Am I the only one that has done the one from Twelve Hopostles?

Recipe: Saint Matthew
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain


Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 4.00 gal
Boil Size: 5.02 gal
Estimated OG: 1.070 SG
Estimated Color: 7.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 70.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
9 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 90.48 %
1 lbs Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 9.52 %
0.20 oz Sorachi Ace [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 9.2 IBU
0.50 oz Sorachi Ace [12.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
0.30 oz Sorachi Ace [12.00 %] (50 min) Hops 13.1 IBU
0.30 oz Sorachi Ace [12.00 %] (40 min) Hops 12.1 IBU
0.40 oz Sorachi Ace [12.00 %] (30 min) Hops 14.1 IBU
0.50 oz Sorachi Ace [12.00 %] (20 min) Hops 13.9 IBU
0.50 oz Sorachi Ace [12.00 %] (10 min) Hops 8.3 IBU
0.50 oz Sorachi Ace [12.00 %] (0 min) Hops -

 

[Opiate42]

Just brewed up a Sorachi Ace smash with 2-row and Windsor on the weekend. The hops smelled like blue cheese (???) when I opened the packet but once added to the boil it smelled delectable. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

 

[Opiate42]

Just a bump and follow up:

Did two sorachi SMaSH batches with 2 Row and Maris Otter

The 2 Row I quite liked, mild, crisp, paired with just about everything I ate.

The Maris Otter was nice too but didn't clear as nicely (I screwed up somewhere I'm sure) and immediately out of the fridge was actually not that pleasant but after it warmed a bit was very tasty and refreshing.

Definitely doing the 2 Row again come summer, great lawnmower beer.

 

[Shenanigans]

Another bump

Just got half a pound of these on special offer and was wondering what I should do with them.

Anyone else brew a successful beer with these recently (other than a Saison)?

Thanks!

 

[Opiate42]

Anyone else brew a successful beer with these recently (other than a Saison)?

Thanks!

Just whipped up a repeat of the SMaSH but using Nottingham this time. Great lawnmower beer.

 

[JF_HBrews]

I've used Sorachi Ace in a Saison and an American Wheat but, I've never picked up the advertised signature lemon flavor. My description is that it's a more potent and bitter Saaz flavor profile. It can make a nice beer but, without resorting to adding lemon grass or lemon zest along with the hops, I haven't gotten the lemon character from it. Last night I had a SMASH IPA from Sand Creek Brewing (WI), good beer but no wow factor from the hops.

 

[Shenanigans]

Thanks for the replies.

I found a few other recipes when searching.

Ace hole.

Should be good according to rate beer:

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/marshal...e-hole/123672/

Cant find the recipe I was looking at last night with just SA and Citra
Will search again later.


Valhalla Red IPA
Also highly rated on Rate Beer
http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebre...lhalla-red-ipa

and
Block 15 Sticky Hands
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/16846/92388/

http://www.craftedpours.com/homebrew...omebrew-recipe

 

[Redlantern]

Whirlpool and Dry Hop in a Rye IPA!!!!

Rye and Sorachi is amazing

 

[Shenanigans]

Whirlpool and Dry Hop in a Rye IPA!!!!

Rye and Sorachi is amazing

Sounds good.

I might do a variation with the Bee Cave Brewery Rye IPA malt bill and Sorachi Ace.
So far that malt bill has tasted great with all 4 different variations I did.
Maybe with Taurus for bittering and some Amarillo in the Whirlpool and dry hop too.

 

[Redlantern]

Specifically I did this

2 oz Amarillo whirlpool for 30 min @ 180°F
1 oz Sorachi Ace whirlpool for 30 min @ 180°F

Dryhop 2 oz Amarillo 5 days
Dryhop 2 oz Sorachi Ace 5 days

 

[Shenanigans]

Specifically I did this

2 oz Amarillo whirlpool for 30 min @ 180°F
1 oz Sorachi Ace whirlpool for 30 min @ 180°F

Dryhop 2 oz Amarillo 5 days
Dryhop 2 oz Sorachi Ace 5 days

Wow a lot of hops.
Is that for 5 gallons or 10?

 

[Redlantern]

5 gallon batch.

I do most of my hops after the boil. Use a 2 boil-3 steep /whirlpool-4 dry hop schedule. Next time I do this batch, will add an ounce of Chinook in the whirlpool

Works out well for what I like. People argue dry hop is aroma only. Different topic, but as I said for me, it works.

 

[evchenko]

I got a huge amount of coconut in the last beer I made with Sorachi. It was a kinda turbid pale ale that had a lot of oats in, sadly I had serious siphon issues when bottling so EVERY ONE of them was a bloody gusher!

I think it's a hop I'll return to at some point but I've got loads to get through first. I think it's probably best suited to a saison a la Brooklyn, as a single hop brew. In a blend, I'd be tempted to pair it with a more orangey hop like Amarillo or Mandarina Bavaria.

 

[Queequeg]

Have a saison in the fermenter right now that hopped with it and a my next ipa will probaly be nelson/ace

 

[Shenanigans]

5 gallon batch.

I do most of my hops after the boil. Use a 2 boil-3 steep /whirlpool-4 dry hop schedule. Next time I do this batch, will add an ounce of Chinook in the whirlpool

Works out well for what I like. People argue dry hop is aroma only. Different topic, but as I said for me, it works.

Sounds good. Like I said the 3 times I brewed the Beecave Brewery Rye IPA it turned out excellent with totally different hops and one time even with a Saison yeast. So I'll give it a go with SA and Amarillo the next time. Maybe a split batch with US05 and Bell Saison.

 

[Shenanigans]

I got a huge amount of coconut in the last beer I made with Sorachi. It was a kinda turbid pale ale that had a lot of oats in, sadly I had serious siphon issues when bottling so EVERY ONE of them was a bloody gusher!

I think it's a hop I'll return to at some point but I've got loads to get through first. I think it's probably best suited to a saison a la Brooklyn, as a single hop brew. In a blend, I'd be tempted to pair it with a more orangey hop like Amarillo or Mandarina Bavaria.

Might pair well with Summit in the Dry hop/whirlpool then.
Luckily I got some that's heavy on the tangerine flavour rather than onion/garlic. As SA is totally new to me I will probably go for the single hop Saison first so I can get to know it better on its own and then after experiment a bit.

 

[Redlantern]

Sounds good. Like I said the 3 times I brewed the Beecave Brewery Rye IPA it turned out excellent with totally different hops and one time even with a Saison yeast. So I'll give it a go with SA and Amarillo the next time. Maybe a split batch with US05 and Bell Saison.

Used US-05 that batch as it was my first attempt at the rye and I was not ready to wrap my tongue around a new grain (to me) and figure out how the yeast played with it. Worked really well

 

[Beeru]

I'm planning on making a batch of simple pale ale with half an ounce of chinook or centenial for a slight bittering, then I'm going to divide it into four small 1.25 gallon batches for the second half of the boil, each with half an ounce of a different flavouring hops, to see if I can tell the difference. I was probably going to do Sorachi Ace, Amarillo, Fuggles, and maybe Citra. I'm really interested to see the differences.

 

[hockeybrewer]

I just got a lb of these for $8.50 and was wondering if anyone tried them in Belgian pale ale? I have some harvested 1214 Abby and was thinking it would go well with Sora hi ace hops.

 

[pshankstar]

I brewed the following recipe I designed over the summer (I do BIAB). I thought it was ok, but others really enjoyed it! People asked if I aged the beer in a whiskey or bourbon barrel or used cubes that were soaked in whiskey or bourbon. No I did not. I thought this was very interesting that many people thought I used some sort of hard liquor with this brew when I did not. The batch made 8.5 gallons, I split it to a 5.5 gallon and 3 gallon fermenters so I could keg it in my 5 and 2.5 gallon kegs.

I still have 10oz left of Sorachi Ace hops (cones), so I am looking to make something else with it. Seems like a nice SMaSH or Saison seems to be a good recipe to use these hops with. I may just wait until the spring since these styles seem like they would make for a great spring beer or summer beer.


Recipe: Warrior's Ace (IPA)
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications:
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Boil Size: 11.69 gal
Post Boil Volume: 10.94 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 8.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 8.13 gal
Estimated OG: 1.062 SG
Estimated Color: 6.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 80.6 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 88.9 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
15 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 75.0 %
3 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 2 15.0 %
1 lbs Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 3 5.0 %
8.0 oz Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.5 %
8.0 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.5 %
1.50 oz Warrior (2015) [14.90 %] - First Wort 60 Hop 6 42.2 IBUs
0.50 oz Warrior (2015) [14.90 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 9.8 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 8 -
1.00 oz Warrior (2015) [14.90 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 9 12.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Sorachi Ace [14.10 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 10 8.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Sorachi Ace [14.10 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Hop 11 8.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast 12 -
1.0 pkg Ringwood Ale (Wyeast Labs #1187) [124.21 Yeast 13 -
3.00 oz Sorachi Ace [14.10 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: BIAB, Full Body
Total Grain Weight: 20 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Saccharification Add 13.15 gal of water at 157.9 F 150.0 F 60 min

Sparge: If steeping, remove grains, and prepare to boil wort

Notes:
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For the dry hops I will use 2oz for the 5.5 gallon batch and 1oz for the smaller 3 gallon batch, thus totallying 3oz of dry hops. Ringwood yeast was used in the 3 gallon batch and WLP001 was used in the 5.5 gallon batch.

 

[trav77]

Anyone else get dill pickle out of sorachi ace? Someone pointed this out to me a short time ago and now it's all I can taste. Lemon and dill pickle.

Sorry if I ruined it for anyone.

 

[daygobrewer]

Anyone else get dill pickle out of sorachi ace? Someone pointed this out to me a short time ago and now it's all I can taste. Lemon and dill pickle.

Sorry if I ruined it for anyone.

I definitely get dill and lemon out of Sorachi Ace. I'm sure it's off-putting for some people. I think it's great.

 

[Redtab78]

I have a full pound of this hop just waiting for the right recipie to strike my fancy....I like the idea of a rye ipa with this hop....does anyone happen to have a good recipie for one? I have never made a rye at all, so I'm not sure what to expect...

 

[daygobrewer]

I have a full pound of this hop just waiting for the right recipie to strike my fancy....I like the idea of a rye ipa with this hop....does anyone happen to have a good recipie for one? I have never made a rye at all, so I'm not sure what to expect...

While it's not a Rye IPA, the best Sorachi Ace beer I've tried is Noble Ale Works Sorachi Ace Showers. The head brewer shared this info regarding their Showers series recipe:

"OG 1.074
IBU 120
Yeast WLP001
Grain bill is a mix of 2 row, Bohemian Pilsner, Golden Promise and about 10% corn sugar
One bittering addition and one whirlpool addition.
Dry hop warm with around 6 oz of hops per 5 gallons.
Good luck!"

 

[Redtab78]

6oz dry hop?? Am I reading that right?

 

[daygobrewer]

6oz dry hop?? Am I reading that right?

Correct, sir.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showpost.php?p=6881879&postcount=14

 

[Redlantern]

My DIPA's are planned with 6 oz hops.

5 in low temp hop stand and 6 in DH.

works for me anyway