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foonder

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I had 2 Chinook rhizomes planted in the ground, each had some 3" shoots growing, and this morning when I checked it both plants had been dug up. I couldn't look for very long, but one rhizome appears to be completely missing. The other (stronger shooted) rhizome appears intact, but the ground has been dug up around it. It looked recent (I'll take a pic soon), and it seems like a fairly large animal dug it up. Maybe a dog? The damage looks a bit large for a mole. Maybe a groundhog? Anyway, I'm buying more fence to go higher around it today, and maybe a ghillie suit & some shotgun shells. Needless to say, I am f***ing pissed.
 
I'd rather use my bare hands, or razor wire. I swear to god if I catch it.....

Strange that it'd leave the bigger plant intact.
 
Kill and eat that sucker!!

Reminds me to move my hops. They are right next to the bird feeders, right where the rabbits were eating 2 days ago!!
 
Homercidal said:
Kill and eat that sucker!!

Reminds me to move my hops. They are right next to the bird feeders, right where the rabbits were eating 2 days ago!!

Sunflower seeds actually contain a chemical that acts as an herbacide. This is so that when the seed begins to sprout, all other plants around have their growth retarded or terminated. Sunflowers don't like any other plants in their way, so they poison them. If there are any sunflower seeds in that bird feeder, you may want to change to a feed with no sunflower seeds, or move them apart from each other.
 
My hops weren't exactly nibbled, the entire rhizome was removed. Here are some pics of the area:

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This is what the damage looks like:
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This is my new defense, fencing almost twice as high, a circular cage around the hop shoot, and I've still got about 20' of fencing to beef up this place
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You might be able to get a better idea of what the damage looks like from this side pic:
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Something completely removed it. It's quite strange. I zoomed over to my LHBS and bought me another Chinook rhizome, which is in a new pot as I write this. If anything happens to these hops, I'm planting land mines and claymores.

EDIT: for anyone who cares, that's a glass of Captain Lawrence's DIPA (in a Captain Lawrence pint glass) straight from a growler from the brewery. It's quite delicious.
 
Skunks are notorious for digging up plants. Especially if you have any kind of fragrant organic compost in there.

If you check out your local gardening center, you may find products that will repel animals. Non lead based products lol
 
Holy crap!! Are you growing your hops in the Thunderdome?!

You could always try and run some electric current through that fence...
 
Doxology said:
Holy crap!! Are you growing your hops in the Thunderdome?!

You could always try and run some electric current through that fence...

Long Live The Thunderdome!!!! LOL!!!!:rockin:

But on a real note...sorry for your loss bro!! This one will be better & stronger!
 
Doxology said:
Holy crap!! Are you growing your hops in the Thunderdome?!

You could always try and run some electric current through that fence...

You joke, a good friend of mine already suggested that and I was considering it...If I post another picture of my hop garden with a bunch of charred dead animals around the fence, you'll know I did it. The Thunderdome fence structures I have should keep skunks & other bastard animals out, right?
 
Whoa whoa whoa!! I'm not suggesting turning the Thunderdome into a giant mammal zapper; just something that will give a little shock to deter (think along the lines of the shock a dog gets from those invisible fences)...

Although, it is kinda funny to think of sitting out on the porch with cold one and a friend on those hot, hot summer nights:
*Zaaaap!
"What do you think that was, a squirrel?"
"Nah, must have been a raccoon by the sound of that"

by the way, that chinook headstone had me seriously cracking up.
 
Doxology said:
Whoa whoa whoa!! I'm not suggesting turning the Thunderdome into a giant mammal zapper; just something that will give a little shock to deter (think along the lines of the shock a dog gets from those invisible fences)...

Although, it is kinda funny to think of sitting out on the porch with cold one and a friend on those hot, hot summer nights:
*Zaaaap!
"What do you think that was, a squirrel?"
"Nah, must have been a raccoon by the sound of that"

by the way, that chinook headstone had me seriously cracking up.

I'm glad Someone's laughing about it:(

I'm not in a 'deter the animal' kind of mindset now. I might've wanted to deter them before. Now I'm out for blood. By the time I finish my improvements I should be safe. There's about 2' of wall and 2' of cage around the hop shoots themselves. I might make the ends on the top sharp so anything getting in will have trouble getting out. I'm not taking any chances now. Bastard plant eaters.
 
Foonder, what you need to do next is to dig some holes, and get some C4 and shape the charges into little burrowing animals....
 
I'm all about the machine gun tower. Or, maybe you could set up a nice blind and use a bow and arrow Ted Nugent style....
 
EvilTOJ said:
Foonder, what you need to do next is to dig some holes, and get some C4 and shape the charges into little burrowing animals....

Where would a grounds keeper even Get C4??? :)
 
foonder said:
Where would a grounds keeper even Get C4??? :)

From back in 'Nam!

Hey, go git Urself a "hav-a-hart" live animal trap. Set it up by the garden with some bait, so you can catch the little critter alive. Then you can spend hours torturing it before you kill it. :ban:
 
ilikestuff said:
Sunflower seeds actually contain a chemical that acts as an herbacide. This is so that when the seed begins to sprout, all other plants around have their growth retarded or terminated. Sunflowers don't like any other plants in their way, so they poison them. If there are any sunflower seeds in that bird feeder, you may want to change to a feed with no sunflower seeds, or move them apart from each other.


I didnt' know that. I'll have to move them. I forgot again last night. But, then I thought the rabbits would probalby rather eat the corn and seed before considering my hops.
 
EvilTOJ said:
Foonder, what you need to do next is to dig some holes, and get some C4 and shape the charges into little burrowing animals....


Any body else picturing Bill Murry in "Caddyshack"?

My old man puts moth balls in and around the garden. If i recall correctly the bitter taste drives off squirrels, rabbits and other various yard rats. He' also has his own thunderdoming as well though, but i believe between the two of them he gets good results.

Also....curse you people from warmer climates. I only have one of 4 rhizomes that has even broken the surface.... I'll show y'all come summer I will....gosh dangit
 
The Soft Underbelly said:
Any body else picturing Bill Murry in "Caddyshack"?

Also....curse you people from warmer climates. I only have one of 4 rhizomes that has even broken the surface.... I'll show y'all come summer I will....gosh dangit

That was the joke...

And my climate isn't that warm, we had an (albeit unexpected) frost this morning. I'm sure the tough ass chinook plant outside will be fine. Speaking of which...
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REVENGE!!! I wish...I don't even Have a bow and arrow.
 
How common is this (animals eating the hops)? I have quite a few squirrels, we know there is a skunk somewhere (we can smell him occassionally), and I've seen a few rabbits as well. I did not plan on caging the area, but wonder if I should, even for a little while until it gets going?
 
7Enigma said:
How common is this (animals eating the hops)? I have quite a few squirrels, we know there is a skunk somewhere (we can smell him occassionally), and I've seen a few rabbits as well. I did not plan on caging the area, but wonder if I should, even for a little while until it gets going?

DEFINITELY Cage the area. A lot. You don't want to put a nice little growing rhizome into the ground and have something remove it for dinner.
 
mr x said:
If you check out your local gardening center, you may find products that will repel animals. Non lead based products lol

Read the label of any animal repellent very carefully! I sell several in my online store, and none are safe for use on/around food crops. Avoid MNK (Methyl Nonyl Ketone) products as they are not food safe and have a very short useful life.

If it were me, I would go for the electric fence first. A few stakes, some fence wire, and a charger is all you need. If an electric fence is not an option, consider an ultrasonic device like the CatStop or a motion sensitive sprinkler like the ScareCrow. The problem with the last two in your application is that not all animals will hear the ultrasonic, and non-skittish animals (like a raccoon) won't even care about the sprinkler.
 
I dunno, looks like a lot of damage for some little critter, and the entire missing rhizome is a little suspicious.

Any of your neighbors build a trellis lately? ;)
 
EDIT: for anyone who cares, that's a glass of Captain Lawrence's DIPA (in a Captain Lawrence pint glass) straight from a growler from the brewery. It's quite delicious.[/QUOTE]

"Captain Lawrence" captains reserve double IPA how nice.. I frequent that brewery often.
Can not pass up the free tasting that Scott gives out. The beer is excellent and he always has the dead playing...

Where about are you located? I'm up in Poughquag in duchess and have 12 hop plants that are starting to pop their little beautiful heads out to see the sun...

This is what I have in the ground
5 cascade
2 centennial
2 chinook
1 mt hood
2 willamette
 
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