Shopping carts with cars for children

[Joker]

I think the world needs:
7lbs Patience
2lbs respect
.5lbs understanding
mash @ 158 so you get some unfermentable sugars

1oz hold your tongue at 60min
.5oz put yourself in their place at 30min
at flame out treat others as you want to be treated

make this brew often and share with everyone.

 

[the_bird]

I think the world needs:
7lbs Patience
2lbs respect
.5lbs understanding
mash @ 158 so you get some unfermentable sugars

1oz hold your tongue at 60min
.5oz put yourself in their place at 30min
at flame out treat others as you want to be treated

make this brew often and share with everyone.

Aaaww! How sweet!

GROUP HUG!

 

[Rhoobarb]

... I absolutely hate those shopping carts you see that are the fisher price car, then a shopping cart....

Hug, schmug! +1. Those monstrosities should be banned. I first saw these bastardly carts at an upscale grocery store in Texas when visiting my parents years ago. There it was, with some Beemer driving, cell phone yapping, jellyheaded bimbette carting little Damien around in it. It was the size of a bumper car! My Mom turned to me and asked if we had "those stupid things" where I live. Within a year or so, we did.

I've been bumped in the shin and run over the toes by "those stupid things". Are kids so dumb and ADD riddled that we have to entertain them 24/7?! A racecar for them to ride around the grocery store? A DVD for them to watch in the backseat of their gas guzzling SUV that's being poorly driven by mommy b/c she can't put the g*ddam cell phone down long enough to pay attention to the road?! Good God, what happened to "stick with your Mom, keep your hands to yourself and don't bother people" in the supermarket and "look out the window" while you drive home?!

 

[Brewing Clamper]

Holy sh*t... some pissed off people up in here! Are you mofos to old to remember what a f*cking drag it was to go grocery shopping with your mom! Even the most angelic of children would go ape sh*t after a little while.

Did you have to walk to school in the snow up hill both ways too? Cuz they have buses now, spoiled kids... BTW, I live in the SF bay area and there are tons of idiot SUV drivers on the phone ... mostly men in crappy business shirts and $10 ties.

Oooh, this is fun!

 

[Rhoobarb]

... Are you mofos to old to remember what a f*cking drag it was to go grocery shopping with your mom! Even the most angelic of children would go ape sh*t after a little while. ...

Yeah, I remember what it was like. It was called behave and walk with mommy or get smacked! We need more of that today, not do-gooder DCFS types threatening to haul parents into court for "abuse" - coddling the little a**wipes and making them all happy-happy by putting their spoiled little overweight butts in shopping carts made to look like Fisher Price cars!

School buses? Are you kidding?! Muhmmy and Dahddy drop them off at the school's door these days! Try driving past a grade school at 8am or 3pm and see how long you sit in a traffic jam of people trying to get in & out of the parking lot. No wonder so many kids are fat!

 

[rdwj]

Think of it this way - those carts hold TWO kids - happy kids! You're not supposed to let kids ride in the basket, so that means that you would have two carts or one of the little ones would be walking.

I ask you this, mr. I'm in too big of a hurry to shop at the pace of others, would you rather navigate a bunch of kids running around or a nice big cart?

Oh, and if you can't wait the extra few seconds it takes, go shopping after bedtime. The stores aren't crowded and you can speed from stop to stop without anyone "wasting" your precious time.

 

[kornkob]

Think of it this way - those carts hold TWO kids - happy kids! You're not supposed to let kids ride in the basket, so that means that you would have two carts or one of the little ones would be walking.

I ask you this, mr. I'm in too big of a hurry to shop at the pace of others, would you rather navigate a bunch of kids running around or a nice big cart?

We didn't have those things 10 years ago and I don't recall having to navigate around herds of kids then. I'm not sure your scenario is valid.


Not that I care about those carts-- I'e never really seen any problems with them specifically.

Kids in general have gotten more obnoxious, as have their parents. So it is possible that there is some sort of link-- even if not causitive.

 

[Rhoobarb]

... You're not supposed to let kids ride in the basket...

Hey! We rode in the basket and we liked it!

Two kids? Simple. One in the rear basket seat, one standing in the front of the cart, holding onto the front rim! Helps them develop their coordination. Once they're old enough to walk, start walking!

 

[srm775]

Yeah, I remember what it was like. It was called behave and walk with mommy or get smacked!

Ahh, Rhoobarb, you're just mad cause the SWMBO makes you ride in one too ... when you go to the beer store so you don't pull everything off the shelf and throw it in the cart.

 

[rdwj]

Hey! We rode in the basket and we liked it!

Two kids? Simple. One in the rear basket seat, one standing in the front of the cart, holding onto the front rim! Helps them develop their coordination. Once they're old enough to walk, start walking!

We also jumped around in the back seat of the car with no restraints while our parents drove around after happy hour smoking cigarettes.

Times are different.

 

[Rhoobarb]

Ahh, Rhoobarb, you're just mad cause the SWMBO makes you ride in one too ... when you go to the beer store so you don't pull everything off the shelf and throw it in the cart.

LOL! Yes, but at least it's not a cart shaped like an automobile!

 

[srm775]

We didn't have those things 10 years ago and I don't recall having to navigate around herds of kids then. I'm not sure your scenario is valid.


Not that I care about those carts-- I'e never really seen any problems with them specifically.

Kids in general have gotten more obnoxious, as have their parents. So it is possible that there is some sort of link-- even if not causitive.

No they haven't ... there are just more of them. As population increases and living spaces (cities) get more-and-more cramped, you still have the same number of bad parents/kids to good parents/kids, just more of both.

 

[srm775]

LOL! Yes, but at least it's not a cart shaped like an automobile!

Ahh bologne, I saw Kelly pushing you around in the the Bob the Builder cart at Binny's ... ocassionally you'd jump out the front window and grab a four-pack of something only to have her wrestle it away from you.

 

[rdwj]

The carts I actually DO hate are the ones with the TVs in them. It's not that they're any harder to use, but you have to pay for them AND you can't take them outside of the store.

 

[srm775]

The carts I actually DO hate are the ones with the TVs in them. It's not that they're any harder to use, but you have to pay for them AND you can't take them outside of the store.

that and it just those stupid kids shows ... might be different if you could get a ball-game on them or the Soprano's or something. Yeah, a Soprano's themed shopping cart, it could look like a big suburban with a Bada-Bing logo on the side.

 

[Rhoobarb]

We also jumped around in the back seat of the car with no restraints while our parents drove around after happy hour smoking cigarettes.

Times are different.

And you turned out just fine. Sort of.

 

[srm775]

And you turned out just fine. Sort of.

Define "fine"

 

[rdwj]

Define "fine"

I think he thinks I'm hot

 

[Rhoobarb]

No they haven't ...

Trust me; they have! Every generation of kids gets get more obnoxios than the last. There were a lot more kids when I was a kid than there are today. Just look:

And every last one of us were angels compard to today's kids. Just ask my Mom.

 

[Rhoobarb]

I think he thinks I'm hot

Is it wrong?

 

[kornkob]

No they haven't ... there are just more of them. As population increases and living spaces (cities) get more-and-more cramped, you still have the same number of bad parents/kids to good parents/kids, just more of both.

While I see your point, I think you're wrong. I don't beleive that the density has changed all that much even though population has increased, at least around here.

Although I have to acknowledge I cannot produce data to prove that point either way.

 

[srm775]

While I see your point, I think you're wrong. I don't beleive that the density has changed all that much even though population has increased, at least around here.

Although I have to acknowledge I cannot produce data to prove that point either way.

You think that the population of Madison Wisconsin hasn't changed, if not dramatically then significantly, in the last say 30 years (since you were a child)?

2003 Census estimate has the population of Madison doubled since 1980.

Regardless, because of industry consolidation the choices to shop are getting fewer and fewer while the super-mega shopping stores take over ... fewer places to shop means higher densities (pun intended) in those places still around.

 

[uglygoat]

i got smacked around in the grocery store all the time as a kid.

pines for the days of ritual beatings... though i don't really swat mary, mostly cause she thinks it's a game of one ups manship, and she comes back at me with a bat or sword or something blunt...

as for the nascar carts... i refuse to shop long enough to require a cart. if it can't be gathered up in a small basket, or in my arms, i ain't buying it. if it's lumber or something big, then i like the manly flatbed with the fecked up wheel that doesn't actually touch the ground...

i never let my kid ride in the nascar cart either because it's such a pain to push, and see above.

 

[kornkob]

You think that the population of Madison Wisconsin hasn't changed, if not dramatically then significantly, in the last say 30 years (since you were a child)?

2003 Census estimate has the population of Madison doubled since 1980.

Regardless, because of industry consolidation the choices to shop are getting fewer and fewer while the super-mega shopping stores take over ... fewer places to shop means higher densities (pun intended) in those places still around.

I am not an idiot. Yes there is a higher headcount in Madison today tan 10 years ago.

there is a difference between population and density.

I'd venture to guess that the density of the population in developed areas in madison wi hasn't changed much in 10 years. There are many areas of madison that were cornfields 10 years ago. Now they are suburbian cookie cutter housing.

I think it is safe to say that on a daily basis I see about as many people as I did 10 years ago. This means that wile there might e a higher headcount in city limits, I am exposed to the same number of people. Unless there are more children per capita, I still see the same number of kids as before.

Census data doesn't tell the whole story any more than anecdotal stories do.



As for 'reduced shopping choices'-- I don't see that at all. The choices have changed but I don't see much change there. In fact, in many cases there are more options in terms of stores than before (although produts in the US have homogonized, but that is not a fuction of population density in the city).

Take Grocery stores: There were once 3 major choices: Woodman's, Willy St coop and Kohl's. Now there are LOTS of choices: Woodman's, Pick n Save, Whole Foods, Trader Joes, Target, Cub's, Sentry, Willy Street... and that's without counting any smaller corner stores (I can picutre but not name 3 different mexican groceries alone).

Now, has Madison lost the nice, convienent little strip of quirky specialty stores on state street? Largely, yes. As rents climbed an the downtown area revitalized, the small stores couldn't make it on their thin margins anymore. So those stores got scattered and, unfortunately, this also means that many folded, since the loss of the 'quirky stores' were not a destination store and they depended on the foot traffic that a central 'quirky store distirct' brought them.

 

[zoebisch01]

Holy sh*t... some pissed off people up in here! Are you mofos to old to remember what a f*cking drag it was to go grocery shopping with your mom! Even the most angelic of children would go ape sh*t after a little while.

Couple this whole thing with the fact that if a child watches 3 hours of tv a day they have seen something like 84 commercials, most of them being for food! It's the subliminal trigger method.

 

[kornkob]

Couple this whole thing with the fact that if a child watches 3 hours of tv a day they have seen something like 84 commercials, most of them being for food! It's the subliminal trigger method.

And further coupled with the fact that 60% of a child's entertainment is now largely 'passive' entertainment so kids are not learning how to self entertain.

 

[DUCCCC]

Couple this whole thing with the fact that if a child watches 3 hours of tv a day they have seen something like 84 commercials, most of them being for food! It's the subliminal trigger method.

I cracking up here, because after watching 3 hours of Food Network, and seeing all the seemingly readily available goods that Rachel, Elton, Emeril and everone else just happens to pick up casually at the supermarket, I'm cursing my local stores out loud while shopping, for their complete lack of ingredients for an authentic Oyaka Donburi, short of chicken, of course. It's tragic, and makes me whine like a 3 year old.

(Holy crap that was alot of commas) I take complete responsibility for my lack of proper grammar this morning. I've only had one cup of coffee.

 

[zoebisch01]

I'll throw this into the works (muahhahaha)

So now you remember when you lipped off in the store? What happened? I venture a guess you got punishment and most of the time probably a form of minor corporal punishment. Abuse is wrong, let me clear that out of the way. If you beat a kid you deserve to be...(insert bad mental image here)...anyways... Nowadays, we have video surveillance, fanatic people who don't mind their own business, etc. You can't smack a kids hand for fear that they'll be ripped from you and your life destroyed. So what happens? The kid becomes more rebellious and demanding. "MOMMY I WANT IT RIGHT NOW". Where are these tyrants coming from? They are a product of our social philosphy. Nobody can tell me it's no different than when I was a kid. It is, and in many respects I don't believe it's for the better in terms of how little respect children have for any figure of authority be it a parent, etc.

 

[cronxitawney]

I'll throw this into the works (muahhahaha)

So now you remember when you lipped off in the store? What happened? I venture a guess you got punishment and most of the time probably a form of minor corporal punishment. Abuse is wrong, let me clear that out of the way. If you beat a kid you deserve to be...(insert bad mental image here)...anyways... Nowadays, we have video surveillance, fanatic people who don't mind their own business, etc. You can't smack a kids hand for fear that they'll be ripped from you and your life destroyed. So what happens? The kid becomes more rebellious and demanding. "MOMMY I WANT IT RIGHT NOW". Where are these tyrants coming from? They are a product of our social philosphy. Nobody can tell me it's no different than when I was a kid. It is, and in many respects I don't believe it's for the better in terms of how little respect children have for any figure of authority be it a parent, etc.

That is so true. I remember when I would act up at the store, my mom would just give me the "look." It usually worked, because I knew that if I kept it up my a$$ was grass.

 

[Rick_R]

They work on the idea that people will be polite to each other

I tend to work on that principle as well. I'm often disappointed, but overall life's better.

(Oh, and of course, keying the cars of those who aren't polite helps.)



Rick