Serebrianka hops

[JLem]

I had a cask-conditioned oatmeal stout with Serebrianka hops tonight (from Mayflower brewing company). Ever heard of this hop? All I can find out about it is that it is a Russian hop that is reported to be one of the parents of Cascade.

The beer was excellent - I didn't get much cascade-like flavor or aroma. More earthy/spicy than citrusy.

The place I was at actually had two versions of the mayflower oatmeal stout - both on cask - one with the Serebrianka hops and one with Crystal hops. Unfortunately, I only had time to try one.

Anyway...anyone have more info or direct experience with Serebrianka?

 

[jaredkent]

Posting here for more info.

I take it you were at Doherty's East Ave. I was sitting there last night and wondered the exact same thing. Came home and googled the hop and the first thing that comes up is your post.

I had both versions of the Oatmeal Stout on cask. I preferred the Crystal hop version but I am very curious to learn more about the Serebrianka.

 

[JLem]

Yup - Had this at Doherty's - what a great place that is.

I might try moving this question over to the ingredients forum, though I'm starting to think not much is known about the hop. Might have to try contacting the brewers over at Mayflower directly and see what they know.

Good to know about the crystal hop version - I'll hopefully get back there to try it before it's gone.

Cheers!

 

[skyler]

I have a pound of this stuff in the freezer right now and was wondering what to do with it. I imagine it is "noble type" since Russians don't exactly brew IPA's, but I would love to know if this will have more of an "American" character.

 

[markg388]

I got some from hops direct this year, so far I've used it in 2 winter warmers (one paired with legacy, the other paired with sterling) and I haven't really tasted anything noteworthy yet. The one with legacy hops was completely taken over by the legacy's black currant notes, the other one just tastes... normal? To be fair neither of those beers are very hoppy. The Serebrianka's do smell awesome, really bright and intense. They're noble-ish, but they make my streisselspalt smell like air in comparison.

I have a vienna/serebrianka/kolsch yeast smash in the primary as we speak that I'm very much looking forward to.

 

[Sacdan]

I made an IPA with them last month. They are low in AA, around 3%. I used 8 oz at 60 minutes and 8 oz at 20 minutes. I dry hopped with 4 oz. The Serenrianka was cross bred with Fuggles to get Cascades. I think it is very similar to Cascade. I will definitely buy it again, but bitter with Magnum.

 

[justkev52]

I also bought a pound from Hops Direct.
I'll try them for an aroma addition in a Belgian.
What the hell, why not eah?

Sampled the Belgian Caramel Amber and it's great!
Glad I tried these hops. I'll be using them more in the future for sure.

 

[smokinghole]

These are on sale and I love using them in my saisons. I can toss in a TON of these hops for a more rustic flavor with out intense fruity or citrus flavors. I just bought a bunch due to the sale to age and use in future lambics and such. I love using them in many different belgian ales. There is almost no cascade like character, just because they're a parent of the cascade doesn't mean that's where cascade got its characteristics. Genetics is a crap shoot and the way the genes recombine is why it takes so long from a cross between two varieties to having a experimental planting. Lots of weeding out the "bad" crosses. It'd be like making a hybrid yeast strain through forced sporulation. Lots to sift through, unless you're dissecting the asci and putting the spores together in pairs. I'm sure the parents of citra don't display much if any of the mango/tropical flavors that citra displays, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

Anyhow I love this hop, its cheap, it's abundant for now, and it has nice subtle rustic character.