Rice partial mash

[NickThoR]

Dont shoot me, but my buddy has been bugging me to make a BMC, but my lhbs doesnt have rice syrup solids, and none of the grocery stores around do either. Im not set up to do all grain, but is there any way i could partial mash just rice, and do the rest extract? Or is this to complicated and not worth it? I dont really know anything about mashing yet. If so is there a substitute? Thanks

 

[david_42]

Buy some alpha amylase. It's cheap. Or you could just use dextrose, rice has almost no flavor.

 

[DrDirt]

Oh, no. Here comes the $##Tstorm.

try flaked rice here - https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/partial-mash-rice-128335/
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/partial-extract-rice-71355/

 

[DrDirt]

rice has almost no flavor.

neither does BMC!

 

[NickThoR]

what is alpha amylase?

 

[skarude]

I say put some yellow food coloring into a bottle of water and give him that.

 

[ChshreCat]

If you use flaked rice, you don't need to mess with the alpha amylase. Just do a partial mash with some base malt and it'll convert. If you can't find flaked rice at your LHBS, you can use cooked Minute Rice the same way. Might want to get a couple handfuls of rice hulls just in case. It can get sticky.

 

[NickThoR]

From reading some other threads, I think the rice will be to complicated to do for this batch,
im thinkin ill do

3# light dme
2# corn syrup
.5# honey
and some clean hops to get around 12ish IBU

 

[ChshreCat]

Partial mashes really aren't that complicated. It's your brew and it's up to you to do it however you want, but don't let partial mash scare you away.

 

[DrDirt]

Why not just brew him a good Kolsch or a blonde ale and tell him that's the closest thing you can do with your equipment. Thats what I'd do.

 

[NickThoR]

know any good how tos on partial mashing?

 

[NickThoR]

i just looked up partial mash and fiound the thread up here by death brewer and its pretty inviting. Im definitely gonna try a partial mash soon, but i doubt im gonna waste it on a bmc taste alike... I've been thinking of a dos equis clone for awhile, sounds like a good candidate.

 

[ChshreCat]

Deathbrewer did a good writeup on his stovetop method:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/easy-partial-mash-brewing-pics-75231/

I use a slightly different method. Heat your oven up to it's lowest temp (most ovens only go down to about 200 degrees. Get your mash water up to temp on the stove and add your grain. Check temp and adjust if needed with hot or cold water. Then throw the lid on, turn off the oven and stick it in. The residual heat in the oven will keep your pot at temp longer without you having to constantly play with it on the stove.

About halfway through you'll want to give it a good stir and turn the oven on for a couple minutes to warm it back up again. After an hour, pour off the liquid and sparge as usual.

I use a big cooler to do my partial mashes now, but I started out just using a big spaghetti pot and it works just fine. You can just pour it out through a big kitchen strainer into your brew kettle, dump the grain back into the pot and add hot water to sparge and pour it through the strainer again.

 

[ChshreCat]

Ahh, you found it while I was typing.

 

[NickThoR]

Thanks alot!! I really appreciate the help/advice. I'm ready to step into the world of grain!!

 

[ChshreCat]

You'll kick yourself for not doing it sooner! If you want an intermediate step, you can try steeping grains, but really... PM brewing is a piece of cake.

 

[NickThoR]

Yeah Ive been using crystal malts, definitely ready for the next step

 

[PT Ray]

I think the sugar/honey addition would be the path of least resistance. However, not so much sugar and more DME, maybe 4# DME 1# sugar/honey. The thing about sugar it will completely ferment out unlike corn or rice which is subject to the mashing process just like malted barley.

 

[bendavanza]

For a BMC type beer, cream of 3 crops is a winner:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f62/cream-three-crops-cream-ale-66503/
I just dumped minute rice straight into the mash. It's a real crowd pleaser.

 

[NickThoR]

decided to go ahead and do the partial mash a cream ale, would

2lbs 6row
1 lb flaked corn
3 lbs light dme be good?

is that enough grain to do a partial mash or is there a limit/ max i can do with a 5 gallon pot?

 

[PT Ray]

I don't remember the percentage of non diastic grain 6 row will convert in a grain bill but you're only using 33%. I want to say it's over 50%, it's usually mentioned in the description on any homebrew supply site if you want to look it up.

 

[NickThoR]

beersmith says pale malt 6 row has diastic power of 150. i dont really know what that means.... is there a chart or something that has percentages that grains will convert?

 

[PT Ray]

This BYO article says up to 50%. I have seen charts and it seems like anything with a rating of 60 or more will self convert.