Grinder12000
Well-Known Member
thought they had things figured out! grrrrrrrr
Safari gives me a Malware warning when I try to bring up their homepage.
I get red warnings all over the place
This web site at ratebeer.com has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.
Pours a clear very light yellow color with almost no head.
There is hardly an aroma at all, maybe some very light grains.
The taste is of light grains, very watery, kind of a light fruit taste, a little sour. There is a slight hoppy aftertaste.
Very light mouthfeel, crisp and thin. Pretty refreshing.
Although this is very easy to drink, it doesn't really have much else to offer.
yeah I get that to, but ignoring it does not and can not do any harm, so.. so what?
Sorry to interrupt the heated debate with this, but:
"Does not and cannot do any harm".... You might want to preface your comment with the fact that you are enjoying the fruits of Linux and not some flavor of Windoze!
To the uninitiated or ill-informed who are using Windoze, your post may seem to suggest that they could safely ignore the warnings.... NOT a good thing for them!
Long live Linux!
On the subject of these sites, they deliver exactly what I would expect. The coors entry is valid because he is not rating, nor are almost anyone on there, the beer to a style, rather to their taste.
A LL or Hefe can be the best LL or Hefe ever made and I'm still not going to like it.
You are proving my point- that ratings sites (of any flavor or variety on any subject) don't really have any practical function other than to let some poor schlep pass judgment on some object and feel momentarily good about it.
Do you feel the same way about the commercial reviews posted on this site?
Overall, no- because I see them as being done intelligently and with careful consideration. Reactions are honest and forthright, with explanations offered. I also like that there isn't a running average of reviews in some abitrary rating system like a number value or letter grade to account for outliers.
There is no qualification process here either
i like reading the descriptions on ratebeer and beeradvocate for stuff i haven't tried yet. despite their ratings, it'll give me an idea of what to expect and whether i should put forth the effort of obtaining a bottle. it's also a nice quick way to find out ABV, breweries, etc. when you don't have all the information on the bottle or are simply investigating.
Sorry to interrupt the heated debate with this, but:
Thank you; you said it far better than I did. I just hate rating sites. If the ratings were coming from seasoned tasters using objective standards against style standards - like the World Beer Cup or GABF judging - I'd respect it. Sites like Ratebeer and Beeradvocate let anyone rate a beer, regardless of the "judge's" competence.
It's the difference between objective and subjective. The come-one-come-all rating sites are so subjective as to be useless.
I do have issues with ratings from "judges" whose credentials are nonexistent. At the very least, a BJCP certification shows a certain level of knowing what the hell you're talking about.
I agree that homebrewers are subject to fads. Entries in Imperial [fill in the blank] far exceed, say, Ordinary Bitter or Mild Ale. After all, they're beer drinkers. Look at the ratings list for Beeradvocate - out of the "A" beers on their list of 50 most recently reviewed beers, one - ONE - isn't a hops monster or imperial stout or bock or big Belgian beer (Point Special, a regional adjunct lager). I don't translate that into smaller beers being less "good"; I attribute that to starry-eyed reviewers who don't know what to do if they don't get smacked in the mouth. For example, here's a review of Coors Light:
The reviewer then rates the beer an "F" - when his verbal description exactly matches what Light American Lager is supposed to be.
What can you possibly take away from that other than a symptom of the whole affair being screwed up beyond all recognition?
Grinder, there's nothing personal here; it's merely my opinion that the rating sites aren't worth the time it takes to read them. I'd rather take that time to sit and drink a sample of the beer I'm considering and trust my own judgement.
Cheerfully,
Bob
Overall, no- because I see them as being done intelligently and with careful consideration. Reactions are honest and forthright, with explanations offered. I also like that there isn't a running average of reviews in some abitrary rating system like a number value or letter grade to account for outliers.
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