Random Beer Thoughts

[Ziggy]

It's so ******* expensive, though! Who has enough disposable income to half-ass this?

Wealthy trust fund ******* homebrewers?

 

[JulianB1]

FWIW Gesha can be an incredible bean, but putting it in a sour beer is like drinking a Pappy and Coke.


Also *its

I feel like he lifted that entire email off the back of some Stone bottle.

 

[sacrelicio]

Bellefonte Brewing: "No brewery can possibly create more bad publicity for themselves on social media this week than us."

Scofflaw Brewing: "Hold our beer."

Dystopian State Brewing: "LEEEEEEEEEERRROOOOOY JEEEEEENNNNNNKINS!"

What did Scofflaw do?

 

[mateoloco]

What did Scofflaw do?

From a deleted post at atlbeer reddit on new year's eve:
"So, I know that at this point they are rumors, but having heard them from multiple sources, as well as seeing it on multiple forums. What say you?

The rumors thus far have been, drunkenly(or sober) chasing an employee out of the building with a firearm. It is rumored that some or all of the employees involved in the situation took a monetary bribe to keep it on the down low.

Also, there is a less substantiated rumor of sexual assault on a female employee, but just another note."

Prior to this, they melted down after people complained PRIVATELY about inconsistent cans:

Below is a Facebook post from a local brewery (Scofflaw) about to have their first anniversary. Along with the post there is a picture of the all the employees with their middle fingers in the air.:
This is a small batch brewery. The amount of time a beer spends in a tank, sometimes due to limited human resources, variances in ingredients, and other **** like this affects the beer. We do not have hops contracts this year. We are small so we get the shittiest pick of hops. Grain does not all come from the same field. We tinker with all inputs to work to improve the beer. This is part of what makes small batch brewing and craft brewing what it is. I know there are a lot of experts out there, so to you, if you want to get schooled on this, drop by and speak to Travis or one of our other biologist. On the other hand, if you want more constancy, you can find plenty brands that never try to improve. Brands that have the money and access to gigantic tanks that they can blend into to make more consistent beer. We will gladly give you some recommendations.

BTW, other craft breweries have these issues. Exploding cans, srm/color variances, haze variances...give them a break. Don't think this is professional, well that's good cause I am not a professional, I am a ******* scofflaw.

This is the new hot brewery that all the neckbeards lose their **** over, but their cans are wildly inconsistent, even within the same six-pack.

Nailed it.

Top comment on Facebook: Saying this as a very big Scofflaw fan who buys your beer all the time, and frequents the brewery: this post is a bad look. It's not worth making posts like this on social media. Nothing positive comes of it.

Scofflaw's response: not true, big guys always trying to smash small guys, small guys always taking **** from people cause they're scared to take up for themselves. not who we are and not who we are gonna be. there is a message here that will be heard. this is not a joke, this is not a playground, we are creating jobs and building families, and we aren't going to be bullied.

Second comment on Facebook: Fair points all around. But what do you say to the consumer who pays $12 expecting to buy 6 cans of beer that taste the same and they get 3 that taste like a science project? Do you really expect us to come back to buy more after that experience?

Scofflaw's response: If that is what you think of our beer then BUY SOMETHING ELSE. Plenty of good beers out there. Skip ours and buy something else.

I think I'm going to ask them for recommendations on more consistent brands, since they said they would "gladly give you some recommendations".

And then if you really want to dig deep, read this article in Good Beer Hunting, filled with more gems from the guy who wrote the facebook posts:
http://goodbeerhunting.com/blog/201...irah-and-travis-herman-of-scofflaw-brewing-co

And then, when they finally admitted that sometimes their cans sucked, the employees shot the cans up with a bunch of automatic weapons in a facebook video.

 

[sacrelicio]

From a deleted post at atlbeer reddit on new year's eve:
"So, I know that at this point they are rumors, but having heard them from multiple sources, as well as seeing it on multiple forums. What say you?

The rumors thus far have been, drunkenly(or sober) chasing an employee out of the building with a firearm. It is rumored that some or all of the employees involved in the situation took a monetary bribe to keep it on the down low.

Also, there is a less substantiated rumor of sexual assault on a female employee, but just another note."

Prior to this, they melted down after people complained PRIVATELY about inconsistent cans:




And then if you really want to dig deep, read this article in Good Beer Hunting, filled with more gems from the guy who wrote the facebook posts:
http://goodbeerhunting.com/blog/201...irah-and-travis-herman-of-scofflaw-brewing-co

And then, when they finally admitted that sometimes their cans sucked, the employees shot the cans up with a bunch of automatic weapons in a facebook video.

I remember the stuff about being "small batch" but I hadn't heard all the other crazy ****.

I HATE when breweries screw up their beer, or make weird recipes, and then are like "Oh you can't handle the flavor bro?? You don't like my experimental basement lab that cranks out hot garbage? Go drink Budweiser!" There's a place here (Bent Brewstillery) that makes all these goofy recipes, has major consistency issues, and they always act like it's just their wacky style.

 

[FoudreGuy]

There's a brewery out here in Seattle that makes weird beer. I swear they do it just because they like being weird and pretentious. They used to use sake yeast in all of their beers until someone yelled at them enough and Upright let them use one of their yeasts.

We do not have hops contracts this year. We are small so we get the shittiest pick of hops.

That's never a good sign. Guessing they didn't plan ahead when creating their business plan.

 

[sacrelicio]

There's a brewery out here in Seattle that makes weird beer. I swear they do it just because they like being weird and pretentious. They used to use sake yeast in all of their beers until someone yelled at them enough and Upright let them use one of their yeasts.



That's never a good sign. Guessing they didn't plan ahead when creating their business plan.

Modist Brewing used to not give style descriptors to any of their beers. They would list the ingredients, the OG and FG, the SRM, and the ABV. And it's like....what am I supposed to do with that? They use style descriptors now and jumped on the haze and milkshake crazes. 180 from wannabe iconoclastic to trendy.

 

[furley]

i like beer but i don't "like" like beer

 

[shuggy1]

Voodoo manbearpig was the best

You're lucky you're not from Pittsburgh saying stuff like that on this site.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

Another in the pantheon of what the **** decisions by the TTB / FDA.

wiltznucs made a mead called Bangkok that featured butterfly pea blossoms which turned the mead a lovely purple color

However, as every single mead has to receive label / formula approval, this mead ran into issues after release when the FDA won't sign off on it being a permitted ingredient (even though other government agencies have signed off on it as a food safe ingredient).

Shared a bottle a few weeks back with our local brewery, and one of the owners enjoyed it enough to order up enough for an infusion that went on draft on Sunday. Breweries do not need to get label / formula approval for things that are being served in their taproom (and is possibly going to change if places like Omnipollo and The Veil have anything to say about it...)

Didn't quite get the exact same color due to a variety of factors, but still very nice when combined with a Belgian blonde ale and white pepper.

 

[boogercrack]

Another in the pantheon of what the **** decisions by the TTB / FDA.

wiltznucs made a mead called Bangkok that featured butterfly pea blossoms which turned the mead a lovely purple color

However, as every single mead has to receive label / formula approval, this mead ran into issues after release when the FDA won't sign off on it being a permitted ingredient (even though other government agencies have signed off on it as a food safe ingredient).

Shared a bottle a few weeks back with our local brewery, and one of the owners enjoyed it enough to order up enough for an infusion that went on draft on Sunday. Breweries do not need to get label / formula approval for things that are being served in their taproom (and is possibly going to change if places like Omnipollo and The Veil have anything to say about it...)

Didn't quite get the exact same color due to a variety of factors, but still very nice when combined with a Belgian blonde ale and white pepper.

Iirc Jester King had a similar issue with epazote in Encendia

 

[ggfunk]

Iirc Jester King had a similar issue with epazote in Encendia

I know a couple of those words.

 

[GuzzleMcBrew]

Another in the pantheon of what the **** decisions by the TTB / FDA.

wiltznucs made a mead called Bangkok that featured butterfly pea blossoms which turned the mead a lovely purple color

However, as every single mead has to receive label / formula approval, this mead ran into issues after release when the FDA won't sign off on it being a permitted ingredient (even though other government agencies have signed off on it as a food safe ingredient).

Shared a bottle a few weeks back with our local brewery, and one of the owners enjoyed it enough to order up enough for an infusion that went on draft on Sunday. Breweries do not need to get label / formula approval for things that are being served in their taproom (and is possibly going to change if places like Omnipollo and The Veil have anything to say about it...)

Didn't quite get the exact same color due to a variety of factors, but still very nice when combined with a Belgian blonde ale and white pepper.

My buddy brought that Bangkok mead to a Christmas party and we all loved it. Taste was great, but that color is definitely the most unique part of the beverage.

 

[ncaudle]

The Veil is releasing a quintuple dry hopped, 11% Triple IPA.

they released 3 beers yesterday: 2 TIPAs and a BW.
the BW was really good

 

[ASUBeer]

they released 3 beers yesterday: 2 TIPAs and a BW.
the BW was really good

That’s good to know. I’ll be driving through Richmond on Sunday and was hoping they’d last. Kind of doubt that but who knows.

I’m not much of a triple IPA fan, so that was going to be my only reason to stop.

 

[Lutter]

https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...r-is-dead-in-2018-so-what-is-independent.html

"Craft beer" is dead!

... long live "Independent" Beer?

"Non-Independent" Beer?

 

[TripleSixHoppia]

Beer journalism is 99% fake news and 1% Don't Drink Beer

 

[Josh2]

Drinking an Epic Brewing NE style IPA and it's actually quite good. Better than other iterations of IPAs they've brewed.

 

[JBP]

Beer “journalism”

 

[LukeAleTime]

You enjoy your nine to five job. I'm over here workin' as a full time beer journalist. Broke af, and honestly, pretty sick of beer but grinding through because there are just so ******* many these days and can I just order a wine instead?

 

[boogercrack]

You enjoy your nine to five job. I'm over here workin' as a full time beer journalist. Broke af, and honestly, pretty sick of beer but grinding through because there are just so ******* many these days and can I just order a wine instead?

Nope

 

[BadJustin]

The Veil is releasing a quintuple dry hopped, 11% Triple IPA.

They can **** **** off off.

 

[iamjeff6]

The Veil is releasing a quintuple dry hopped, 11% Triple IPA.

Today this day I still have not had a veil beer, I refuse.

 

[JulianB1]

This beer makes an 11% triple dry-hopped IPA seem quaint by comparison:

 

[ASUBeer]

They can **** **** off off.

The owner/brewer of Veil and his wife are actually some of the nicest people in the beer world, so I like supporting them when possible. However, they have taken a turn towards the world of gimmicks which is weird given his history/pedigree.

 

[ASUBeer]

This beer makes an 11% triple dry-hopped IPA seem quaint by comparison:

Oh ******* hell.

 

[BadJustin]

The owner/brewer of Veil and his wife are actually some of the nicest people in the beer world, so I like supporting them when possible. However, they have taken a turn towards the world of gimmicks which is weird given his history/pedigree.

There is no one more disgusted than Shaun Hill, I assume.

 

[TripleSixHoppia]

This beer makes an 11% triple dry-hopped IPA seem quaint by comparison:

Well we just made an IPAAF which is at least 20% and dry hopped 6 times.

 

[jbeezification1]

Well we just made an IPAAF which is at least 20% and dry hopped 6 times.

Pfshfhfhhhfhff not dry hopping 7 times

Every even had a beer, bro?

 

[ncaudle]

There is no one more disgusted than Shaun Hill, I assume.

even Shaun Hill has used his share of weird adjunct/gimmicks. see Leaves Of Grass series...