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That's interesting. Tell me more.

Seriously. Why don't you like IPAs?

Are you a Communist or something?

Prefer sour and other mixed fermentation styles more. When I'm feeling the need for hoppy flavor I prefer pale ales or a hoppy lager. I also tend to drink a lot of low ABV beers which excludes IPAs. I don't hate IPA, there's just usually other beers I'd rather drink.
 
Prefer sour and other mixed fermentation styles more. When I'm feeling the need for hoppy flavor I prefer pale ales or a hoppy lager. I also tend to drink a lot of low ABV beers which excludes IPAs. I don't hate IPA, there's just usually other beers I'd rather drink.

Not that you care, but IPAs are most of what I drink. Not that I only drink them, it's just hard to find other styles that I like that are made well. Most US saison brewing is a joke and good luck finding anyone taking the time to make superb lagers. They're around, there just aren't many. Quality Belgian Abbey-style beers? Most US brewers gave up on those years ago. Would LOVE if there were more breweries making consistently excellent sour and mixed fermentation beers, like you mentioned, but they're few and far between, as well, and since I drink most of my commercial beer at the pub that sort of limits my options.
 
Not that you care, but IPAs are most of what I drink. Not that I only drink them, it's just hard to find other styles that I like that are made well. Most US saison brewing is a joke and good luck finding anyone taking the time to make superb lagers. They're around, there just aren't many. Quality Belgian Abbey-style beers? Most US brewers gave up on those years ago. Would LOVE if there were more breweries making consistently excellent sour and mixed fermentation beers, like you mentioned, but they're few and far between, as well, and since I drink most of my commercial beer at the pub that sort of limits my options.
Fruited kettle soured FTW
 
How old is "too old" for you?
Probably a month but it depends on the beer. I can find Yellow Rose at a week old at the local grocery store as well as a few Saint Arnold IPAs that noones heard of. There's a brewery that puts out a mosaic IPA that becomes a malty mess after 2 weeks so I don't even bother with that one.
 
Not that you care, but IPAs are most of what I drink. Not that I only drink them, it's just hard to find other styles that I like that are made well. Most US saison brewing is a joke and good luck finding anyone taking the time to make superb lagers. They're around, there just aren't many. Quality Belgian Abbey-style beers? Most US brewers gave up on those years ago. Would LOVE if there were more breweries making consistently excellent sour and mixed fermentation beers, like you mentioned, but they're few and far between, as well, and since I drink most of my commercial beer at the pub that sort of limits my options.

really depends what area you're in... the NY area is all of a sudden seeing a lot of good lager styles... and if you have access to breweries that make good mixed fermentation stuff... it's not that hard to drink what you like regularly for many people
 
Didn't take long for this news item to start causing an uproar online:

Brewers Association announces plans to crack down on offensive and sexist beer labels

The organization added two new lines to its Marketing and Advertising Code Wednesday, advising brewers that, along with avoiding advertisements that encourage things like underage consumption or drunk driving, their marketing materials should not:

  • contain sexually explicit, lewd, or demeaning brand names, language, text, graphics, photos, video, or other images that reasonable adult consumers would find inappropriate for consumer products offered to the public; or
  • contain derogatory or demeaning text or images.
The organization also announced that beers entered into its annual Great American Beer Festival and biennial World Beer Cup competitions would henceforth be subject to review by the newly formed Advertising Complaint Review Panel composed of three members independent from the beer industry with experience in law, marketing and academia (you can read about the panel and their qualifications using that link). Brands the panel finds fall outside the BA’s advertising code will still be allowed to win the awards, but will be banned from using them in any brewery marketing (by putting the GABF medal on the beer’s label, for instance) and will not have their names announced during award ceremonies.

While I'm not sure if I agree with the specific tactics they are using, I generally do think that it's time for breweries to step away from immature edginess in their branding. Most/all of the brands that I find the most appealing in terms of marketing, beer names, label art, etc. don't bother with that kind of stuff and present something more professional.

Leave the immature edginess to us.
 
Not that you care, but IPAs are most of what I drink. Not that I only drink them, it's just hard to find other styles that I like that are made well. Most US saison brewing is a joke and good luck finding anyone taking the time to make superb lagers. They're around, there just aren't many. Quality Belgian Abbey-style beers? Most US brewers gave up on those years ago. Would LOVE if there were more breweries making consistently excellent sour and mixed fermentation beers, like you mentioned, but they're few and far between, as well, and since I drink most of my commercial beer at the pub that sort of limits my options.

I drink far more IPA when I'm out than home for the same reason--also that most bars are carrying IPA in at least half their taps so it's the best opportunity to pick a high quality beer. That said most of the beer I drink is homebrew so I don't have to worry about the selection not fitting my preferences.
 
really depends what area you're in... the NY area is all of a sudden seeing a lot of good lager styles... and if you have access to breweries that make good mixed fermentation stuff... it's not that hard to drink what you like regularly for many people

The local/regional aspect of this can't be overstated. I'd love to drink more pilsners and lagers, both hoppy or not, if there were high-quality options available on draft that I knew were relatively fresh. Most of the ones we see end up being from mediocre to bottom-tier SC breweries that I largely avoid. Heck, I'd drink Prima Pils more often if it were on draft at bars, rather than $6 for a bottle that's probably been sitting in the distributor's warehouse for months before hitting the shelves.

As a result, when I'm drinking locally I'm mostly either drinking one of the IPAs from our local brewery or Lagunitas IPA. The latter because I can generally count on it to be relatively fresh, consistent, and not to fall off quickly. Other stuff we routinely see on draft like Sculpin tends to be a lot more inconsistent. Whereas with the local beer the only way I know that it's going to be fresh and taste right is at the brewery itself. The distributor often sits on kegs for months before sending them out, it's infuriating.
 
Didn't take long for this news item to start causing an uproar online:

Brewers Association announces plans to crack down on offensive and sexist beer labels



While I'm not sure if I agree with the specific tactics they are using, I generally do think that it's time for breweries to step away from immature edginess in their branding. Most/all of the brands that I find the most appealing in terms of marketing, beer names, label art, etc. don't bother with that kind of stuff and present something more professional.

Leave the immature edginess to us.

I think that 99.9 percent of beer labels wouldn't even fall into this category. Plus, i have never really seen a beer label ever and thought "some people might be offended by that". Seriously. Only beer label that struck me with a "WTF" was "the brown note" by against the grain. Other than that, nothing really has ever stood out.
 
6 weeks is my personal cutoff for an IPA's age. And where I live, fresh beer is tough to come by.

My "usuals" are as follows:

- Always have Stillwater Classique in the fridge
- Apex Predator, when it's around
- Any recently released FW hoppy beer (mostly the Luponic Distortion series...finding fresh Union or Easy Jack is rare)

I pretty much just slam Classique though.
 
6 weeks is my personal cutoff for an IPA's age. And where I live, fresh beer is tough to come by.

My "usuals" are as follows:

- Always have Stillwater Classique in the fridge
- Apex Predator, when it's around
- Any recently released FW hoppy beer (mostly the Luponic Distortion series...finding fresh Union or Easy Jack is rare)

I pretty much just slam Classique though.


Fresh Double Duckpin, or regular Duckpin
 
Fresh Double Duckpin, or regular Duckpin

I lean toward the sub-7% end of the spectrum, but I do love regular Duckpin. Everyone thinks any pale ale nowadays has to be like drinking hazy hop water. I love how Duckpin is dry, refreshing, and has enough hops to keep me coming back for more. I'm a big Duckpin homer.
 
Not that you care, but IPAs are most of what I drink. Not that I only drink them, it's just hard to find other styles that I like that are made well. Most US saison brewing is a joke and good luck finding anyone taking the time to make superb lagers. They're around, there just aren't many. Quality Belgian Abbey-style beers? Most US brewers gave up on those years ago. Would LOVE if there were more breweries making consistently excellent sour and mixed fermentation beers, like you mentioned, but they're few and far between, as well, and since I drink most of my commercial beer at the pub that sort of limits my options.
Do you have something against drinking imported beer? I go through cans of Pilsner Urquell like it's going out of style.
 
I think that 99.9 percent of beer labels wouldn't even fall into this category. Plus, i have never really seen a beer label ever and thought "some people might be offended by that". Seriously. Only beer label that struck me with a "WTF" was "the brown note" by against the grain. Other than that, nothing really has ever stood out.

Northwest-Brewing-Co_Hoppy-Bitch-IPA_2014-2.jpg


This is a local WA beer that isn't very good but manages to get distribution to lots of places I wouldn't expect (concert venues, stadiums, etc.). The name/label combo bugs me.
 
Didn't take long for this news item to start causing an uproar online:

Brewers Association announces plans to crack down on offensive and sexist beer labels



While I'm not sure if I agree with the specific tactics they are using, I generally do think that it's time for breweries to step away from immature edginess in their branding. Most/all of the brands that I find the most appealing in terms of marketing, beer names, label art, etc. don't bother with that kind of stuff and present something more professional.

Leave the immature edginess to us.
Here's a perfect example:
http://sickntwistedbrewery.com/brews/

I'm far from politically correct, but their names made me never want to visit their brewery.
 
I think that 99.9 percent of beer labels wouldn't even fall into this category. Plus, i have never really seen a beer label ever and thought "some people might be offended by that". Seriously. Only beer label that struck me with a "WTF" was "the brown note" by against the grain. Other than that, nothing really has ever stood out.



Here's some that some might find offensive: *people are dumb and like to be offended.
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blumpkin.jpg

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Here's a perfect example:
http://sickntwistedbrewery.com/brews/

I'm far from politically correct, but their names made me never want to visit their brewery.
Wow those are bad. Every single one is some kind of ****** play on sexual innuendo. Reads like a 15 yr old virgin neckbeard opened a brewery and came up with those names.
 
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