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Been a time since I last had Two Hearted. Had it a couple times this week.

Meh. The IPA game has left this beer behind I'm afraid.


I love Two Hearted with all my heart, but I agree. Many surpass it now, however it is 90% of the time my fallback especially in those tallboys. I love dem tallboys. If I need a clean and solid IPA it is usually very fresh, so it usually satisfies my hop hunger pangs.
 
I love Two Hearted with all my heart, but I agree. Many surpass it now, however it is 90% of the time my fallback especially in those tallboys. I love dem tallboys. If I need a clean and solid IPA it is usually very fresh, so it usually satisfies my hop hunger pangs.
Yeah, it's not bad, just behind the times. I remembered it much more fondly.
 
A lot of breweries in Oregon have gotten into kettle souring rather than extended barrel aging in order to make their beer. The beer oftentimes comes off as one-dimensional and boring to me but most people disagree with me and see little difference. I think they're crazy. What do you guys think?
 
A lot of breweries in Oregon have gotten into kettle souring rather than extended barrel aging in order to make their beer. The beer oftentimes comes off as one-dimensional and boring to me but most people disagree with me and see little difference. I think they're crazy. What do you guys think?
So pitching bugs instead of letting the barrels "infect" the beer? Sorry, I'm a bit green on my knowledge of sour beer making.
 
So pitching bugs instead of letting the barrels "infect" the beer? Sorry, I'm a bit green on my knowledge of sour beer making.
More or less. You put the bacteria in the boil kettle before adding yeast to drop PH in advance. Some will reheat to pasteurize, keeping bacteria out of fermentation chambers.
 
Had a DDH Melcher St last night. Appearance and taste completely different from the two other offerings I've had. No discernible date on the bottle. Did I get an old/ bad one?

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I honestly can't remember offhand if I've had kettle-soured beer recently, but if it produces good beer, I'm all for it.

That said, I've definitely heard more negative about that new "trend," and I don't know if it's constructive negativity or just "I'M AN OLD BEER FART THAT HATES EVERYTHING NEW" negativity.
 
I honestly can't remember offhand if I've had kettle-soured beer recently, but if it produces good beer, I'm all for it.

That said, I've definitely heard more negative about that new "trend," and I don't know if it's constructive negativity or just "I'M AN OLD BEER FART THAT HATES EVERYTHING NEW" negativity.
You've had a lot of Beatitude and Toolbox, haven't you?
 
You've had a lot of Beatitude and Toolbox, haven't you?
Beatitude isn't kettle-soured (they use no-boil IIRC), and Toolbox doesn't kettle sour either - at least they didn't when Peter was head brewer.

A cursory Google search does reveal, however, that Breakside does, specifically for their Passionfruit Sour. Have they always kettle-soured that or was that recent? Had a bottle two years ago and it was stellar, and had one a few months ago and it seemed kind of bland.
 
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Beatitude isn't kettle-soured (they use no-boil IIRC), and Toolbox doesn't kettle sour either - at least they didn't when Peter was head brewer.

A cursory Google search does reveal, however, that Breakside does, specifically for their Passionfruit Sour. Have they always kettle-soured that or was that recent? Had a bottle two years ago and it was stellar, and had one a few months ago and it seemed kind of bland.
Breakside always has, yes.

No-boil is usually a form of kettle-souring, but it depends on specific process.
 
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