Random Beer Thoughts

[user 308679]

Checking out the liquor stores on the road trip up to Crested Butte to snag some primo beers I can't get down here. Yeah, it's Christmas for an old man.

F**k the beer. I wish I was on my way to CB.

 

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https://www.brewbound.com/news/constellation-brands-acquires-texas-four-corners-brewing

Constellation bought Four Corners up in the Dallas area.

I assume it took me 3 days to notice because no one cared, lol.

Their beer suuuuuucks.

 

[Fingolfin]

 

[ncaudle]

I love that one of the better IPA breweries in the east coast, Triple Crossing, is literally my neighborhood bar. unfortunately, all of their porters/stouts taste of licorice...

 

[furley]

ABINBEV owns Hoegaarden? huh

 

[Beerontwowheels]

I love that one of the better IPA breweries in the east coast, Triple Crossing, is literally my neighborhood bar. unfortunately, all of their porters/stouts taste of licorice...

Heard it here first, ncaudle despises black jelly beans. More at eleven.

 

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ABINBEV owns Hoegaarden? huh

They bought the brand/brewery after the original brewery burnt down and Interbrew purchased an interest to “help reopen” the brewery. Eventually they pushed Pierre Celis, who owned the brewery at the time out by making him make Hoegaarden more “mass market” by insisting he change the recipe... and he came to Austin to open Celis Brewing.

Austin apparently had the same water chemistry as there was in Hoegaarden so he took the original recipe and began brewing Celis White here.

Eventually he was ****** again when Miller acquired Celis Brewing, turned around, and shut down the brewery and sold the brand to a brewery in Michigan where it was brewed for years.

Pierre died.

Fast forward a decade and a half to 2017 and his daughter Christine got the brand back (after the brewery in Michigan went bust) and reopened Celis Brewing in Austin.

TLDR; Celis White is Hoegaarden.

 

[jbeezification1]

They bought the brand/brewery after the original brewery burnt down and Interbrew purchased an interest to “help reopen” the brewery. Eventually they pushed Pierre Celis, who owned the brewery at the time out by making him make Hoegaarden more “mass market” by insisting he change the recipe... and he came to Austin to open Celis Brewing.

Austin apparently had the same water chemistry as there was in Hoegaarden so he took the original recipe and began brewing Celis White here.

Eventually he was ****** again when Miller acquired Celis Brewing, turned around, and shut down the brewery and sold the brand to a brewery in Michigan where it was brewed for years.

Pierre died.

Fast forward a decade and a half to 2017 and his daughter Christine got the brand back (after the brewery in Michigan went bust) and reopened Celis Brewing in Austin.

TLDR; Celis White is Hoegaarden.

I’ve yet to bother with any of the new Celis beers. I haven’t even tasted a single one.

 

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I’ve yet to bother with any of the new Celis beers. I haven’t even tasted a single one.

It’s really really good. They’ve really got the White dialed in.

It hasn’t been canned/bottled yet at the new brewery, but the Grand Cru is one of my favorites on tap around town.

My wife crushes Celis Strawberry by the case as well.

I believe they’re Austin only right now but they’re being distro’ed by Brown Distributing so I imagine Houston expansion will come soon enough.

 

[jbeezification1]

It’s really really good. They’ve really got the White dialed in.

It hasn’t been canned/bottled yet at the new brewery, but the Grand Cru is one of my favorites on tap around town.

My wife crushes Celis Strawberry by the case as well.

I believe they’re Austin only right now but they’re being distro’ed by Brown Distributing so I imagine Houston expansion will come soon enough.

It’s all over in Houston. I just walk right past it every time.

 

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It’s all over in Houston. I just walk right past it every time.

Ah. There ya go.

Shows you how often I get over there.

Try and report back.

 

[trickytunadicky]

They appear to have missed Mahou-San Miguel/Founders.

 

[beerindex]

They appear to have missed Mahou-San Miguel/Founders.

Were the intent to encompass that level of detail, then they missed quite a bit. For example, Mahou owns an equally large stake in Avery now. Likewise, through Lagunitas Heineken owns a stake in a number of breweries like Short's and Moonlight. Hell, the included FCP portfolio doesn't include their most recent acquisition Deep Ellum. It's a nice looking graphic, but there are way too many convoluted brewery ownership situations to package neatly in a single infographic.

 

[drgarage1]

Were the intent to encompass that level of detail, then they missed quite a bit. For example, Mahou owns an equally large stake in Avery now. Likewise, through Lagunitas Heineken owns a stake in a number of breweries like Short's and Moonlight. Hell, the included FCP portfolio doesn't include their most recent acquisition Deep Ellum. It's a nice looking graphic, but there are way too many convoluted brewery ownership situations to package neatly in a single infographic.

Tens of relationships they missed. Agreed.

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

Were the intent to encompass that level of detail, then they missed quite a bit. For example, Mahou owns an equally large stake in Avery now. Likewise, through Lagunitas Heineken owns a stake in a number of breweries like Short's and Moonlight. Hell, the included FCP portfolio doesn't include their most recent acquisition Deep Ellum. It's a nice looking graphic, but there are way too many convoluted brewery ownership situations to package neatly in a single infographic.

If FCP is smart they'll forget they made that acquisition, too.

 

[wuntrikpony]

I love that one of the better IPA breweries in the east coast, Triple Crossing, is literally my neighborhood bar. unfortunately, all of their porters/stouts taste of licorice...

Stouts are by far their biggest weakness. Curious how their BABW turns out though.

 

[nathanmiller]

Were the intent to encompass that level of detail, then they missed quite a bit. For example, Mahou owns an equally large stake in Avery now. Likewise, through Lagunitas Heineken owns a stake in a number of breweries like Short's and Moonlight. Hell, the included FCP portfolio doesn't include their most recent acquisition Deep Ellum. It's a nice looking graphic, but there are way too many convoluted brewery ownership situations to package neatly in a single infographic.

Shorts and moonlight are on the graphic though.

 

[JCastle1]

I’ve yet to bother with any of the new Celis beers. I haven’t even tasted a single one.

It's no Allagash White but I liked it. The NEIPA was tasty but not even close to being a real NEIPA, it tasted like a hopped up wheat beer.

 

[beerindex]

Shorts and moonlight are on the graphic though.

Alright, Independence and Beavertown are missing from Heineken then.

 

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Count me as someone who can’t believe Deep Ellum still exists. I’m just gonna assume they still sell a fuckload of Dallas Blonde up north.

 

[Padraig]

Once upon a time Buxton used to be a slightly conservative but always excellent brewery. Then they became buddies with you-know-who and now this is where we find ourselves.

 

[tosh1]

^ ******* wankmaggots.

 

[furley]

 

[tosh1]

Nothing I have ever said on TB is original.

I am okay with that.

 

[jbeezification1]

Nothing I have ever said on TB is original.

I am okay with that.

It’s new to me

 

[wuntrikpony]

I keep seeing ISOs for 450 North cans...stuff any good? Any breweries their haze is similar to?

 

[Kentucky1]

I keep seeing ISOs for 450 North cans...stuff any good? Any breweries their haze is similar to?

It is okay - nothing special IMO. If anyone wants shelfies from them, holler!

 

[lb304854]

 

[drgarage1]

Looks like soup, serve it in a bowl

 

[user 307594]

what the ****