Random Beer Thoughts

[drgarage1]

Took my bottles and cans in yesterday. Took 10 minutes. Used the cash I got back to buy 12pk Two Hearted.

It's only a tax if you don't return the bottles/cans.

As a Michigan native, it infuriates me how badly California implemented their program. There are only designated return spots (where in Michigan, all stores that collect deposit must accept returns) with terrible hours, and they pay back different amounts based on if it's aluminum, plastic, or glass, and then the various glasses get paid out differently. It's the difference between consumer advocates writing the law (Michigan) and the beverage industry and grocery store lobbyists writing the law (California).

And anyone in Michigan bitching about 10-cent deposits has no idea how good they've got it or how much that law transformed litter issues in the state.

 

[JCastle1]

Remind me of being in Germany and buying cheap beer at Aldi for 25 cent per bottle. 12 cents was the deposit, I believe.

Drink them all, go back the next day, return the bottles, and buy another case using the money you just got back. It felt like free beer!

******* I love Aldi.

What the hell were you buying for 25 cents? I believe Lowenbrau and Augustiner are the cheapest options I've seen at around 60 cents + 10 cent deposit.

 

[boogercrack]

It will?

A certain contingent in your state still gets ticked each and every year when KBS shows up in other areas and Founders "can't even take care of their locals".

 

[nanobrew1]

As a Michigan native, it infuriates me how badly California implemented their program. There are only designated return spots (where in Michigan, all stores that collect deposit must accept returns) with terrible hours, and they pay back different amounts based on if it's aluminum, plastic, or glass, and then the various glasses get paid out differently. It's the difference between consumer advocates writing the law (Michigan) and the beverage industry and grocery store lobbyists writing the law (California).

And anyone in Michigan bitching about 10-cent deposits has no idea how good they've got it or how much that law transformed litter issues in the state.

CRV is essentially a homeless tax. Very few people in CA actually collect and return deposits, most just put them in the recycling container (or trash) and the homeless go hunting through.

Since my wife is born and raised Michigan she has me collecting bottles for return, especially since I used to do regular bottle shares. The cans I collect and put in a bag to give to a homeless man that lives near our complex. He is nice and typically picks up trash around our block.

 

[spewlanders]

and simply throw it out with the rest of my trash.

FYI... that makes you an Ahole.

 

[steimie]

A certain contingent in your state still gets ticked each and every year when KBS shows up in other areas and Founders "can't even take care of their locals".

Yeah, but we can't even figure out left turns here, so...

 

[drgarage1]

CRV is essentially a homeless tax. Very few people in CA actually collect and return deposits, most just put them in the recycling container (or trash) and the homeless go hunting through.

Since my wife is born and raised Michigan she has me collecting bottles for return, especially since I used to do regular bottle shares. The cans I collect and put in a bag to give to a homeless man that lives near our complex. He is nice and typically picks up trash around our block.

100%. I gave up on returns 10 years ago and try to make it easy for the lady in my neighborhood to pick up my cans.

 

[furley]

100%. I gave up on returns 10 years ago and try to make it easy for the lady in my neighborhood to pick up my cans.

do you... do you ever pick up her cans?

 

[quirk6]

I have single stream recycling in my town. It's the best and I love it. I used to do returns not to get my nickle back but because I wanted things recycled. Now I can just throw all my cans, bottles, paper, and plastic into the same bin. I loathe the way the bottle return rooms smell.

 

[arren]

Jacked this from a BIF thread. Just when you thought the haze craze couldn't get worse, it goes and pulls this ******* ****

poo poo water haze! looks are def deceiving, this is damn good!

 

[JulianB1]

Jacked this from a BIF thread. Just when you thought the haze craze couldn't get worse, it goes and pulls this ******* ****

That looks oxidized.

 

[tikk]

That looks oxidized.

You look oxidized

 

[austinbridges]

There's a local thread where a guy got accused of "slandering" from a local brewery's 'Chief Creative Officer' by saying this:



Was too simlilar to Jester King's logo:



These breweries are in the same state.

 

[beerindex]

FYI... that makes you an Ahole.

I'll be sure to pretend to give a damn about your opinion of me.

 

[BadJustin]

Local brewery that always brings the lulz announced yesterday no more filling of narrow necked, small opening growlers (HF fliptop style) due to the fact it allows for too much oxidation and loss of carb. Also citing that it's wasteful. On the first two points, you're wrong and the last item, really? Gotta save those precious oz's.

 

[andrewdrinks]

https://www.beermerchants.com/features/beer-trading-cantillon-is-not-currency

The primary online store for Cantillon in the UK sold their H1 2017 allocations of St Lamvinus, Vigneronne and GCB today - 6 bottles each of the first two, 12 of GCB - at one per person. New for this year though: bans from future sales if any of the above are traded.

(About a pallet comes in every half year I think, but it goes far and wide to independent stores - so while 1000+ people crash the Beer Merchants server to buy these 24 bottles, I've been in small town stores that have had dusty LPGs from the previous year on a high shelf at £12)

 

[MooseLang]

What the hell were you buying for 25 cents? I believe Lowenbrau and Augustiner are the cheapest options I've seen at around 60 cents + 10 cent deposit.

This was in 2007 when I was in college. I couldn't possibly remember the brand, but it was nothing as well known as Lowenbrau or Augustiner. Definitely some cheap swill.

 

[ant880]

FYI... that makes you an Ahole.

I have never returned a single bottle to get the deposit back in my entire life. I put the bottles & cans out with my recycling every week and if someone who is needier or has more ambition than I do (which is most people) comes by to pick them up for the returns before the garbage men do, then everyone wins. Does that make me an ******* too?

I have nipples. Can you milk me?

 

[mateoloco]

I have never returned a single bottle to get the deposit back in my entire life. I put the bottles & cans out with my recycling every week and if someone who is needier or has more ambition than I do (which is most people) comes by to pick them up for the returns before the garbage men do, then everyone wins. Does that make me an ******* too?

You recycle, whereas he throws it out with the rest of the trash.

I have nipples. Can you milk me?

Have you been doing lots of anabolic steroids? If so, I may be able to.

 

[boogercrack]

Have you been doing lots of anabolic steroids? If so, I may be able to.

That's Synthol injectinons, not proper anabolics.

Come on man.

#TalkRoids

 

[JulianB1]

Local brewery that always brings the lulz announced yesterday no more filling of narrow necked, small opening growlers (HF fliptop style) due to the fact it allows for too much oxidation and loss of carb. Also citing that it's wasteful. On the first two points, you're wrong and the last item, really? Gotta save those precious oz's.

I don't really mind when breweries set up rules like this, but hate it when they create reasons that are completely ********. Just say that it's hard to fill them given your setup (which can be true for those HF-style 750ml growlers, depending on what the taps are like) and be done with it. Blaming loss of carb and oxidation just comes off as an attempt to find a very technical excuse in the hopes that your customers are rubes and will just nod their heads and move along.

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

We don't do bottle deposits in PA but when I was in MA for work I stopped into a shop that had bottle return. Holy smokes did that smell terrible.

 

[boogercrack]

I don't really mind when breweries set up rules like this, but hate it when they create reasons that are completely ********. Just say that it's hard to fill them given your setup (which can be true for those HF-style 750ml growlers, depending on what the taps are like) and be done with it. Blaming loss of carb and oxidation just comes off as an attempt to find a very technical excuse in the hopes that your customers are rubes and will just nod their heads and move along.

A couple places around me refuse to fill the HF style ones specifically for the reason that it's a pain in the ass with their fill system.

I much more respect their openness about that versus masking it with some horseshit about oxidation or something.

 

[jivex5k1]

A couple places around me refuse to fill the HF style ones specifically for the reason that it's a pain in the ass with their fill system.

I much more respect their openness about that versus masking it with some horseshit about oxidation or something.

"Sorry, we don't fill those growlers out of spite. **** Hill Farmstead."

Also, **** hazy IPAs. I forgot I was in one last beer group on facebook because I unfollowed it but a friend of mine posted some **** in it so it popped up. I took a gander and there's a thread with nearly 14 people posting pictures of an IPA that looks like a ******* yeast starter. I hope they got ****** in.

 

[JulianB1]

A couple places around me refuse to fill the HF style ones specifically for the reason that it's a pain in the ass with their fill system.

I much more respect their openness about that versus masking it with some horseshit about oxidation or something.

Having filled them with homebrews from the taps on my buddy's home bar, I know from experience they are hard to fill (even with a tube) unless it's from those long, thin taps like what HF has.

 

[FTowne1]

Having filled them with homebrews from the taps on my buddy's home bar, I know from experience they are hard to fill (even with a tube) unless it's from those long, thin taps like what HF has.

I've filled them several times at home with a growler filler tube and didn't have much of a problem.

 

[seedavid]

I don't really mind when breweries set up rules like this, but hate it when they create reasons that are completely ********. Just say that it's hard to fill them given your setup (which can be true for those HF-style 750ml growlers, depending on what the taps are like) and be done with it. Blaming loss of carb and oxidation just comes off as an attempt to find a very technical excuse in the hopes that your customers are rubes and will just nod their heads and move along.

Tired Hands has/had a similar policy. They insisted that their draft system was set up to fill their growlers only, specifically to ensure that the beer was poured and stored properly, and to avoid wasting beer, so they would only fill Tired Hands branded growlers. Keep in mind that their growlers were not some proprietary shape/design only to be found at TH, they're just these things:

Despite their rules, every growler I've ever had from Tired Hands has lost carb somewhere between Ardmore and New Jersey, regardless of how I stored it in the car. So their policy is total ********.

But, I will give them credit, because apart from acknowledging that it's a pain in the ass rule, TH will now exchange any growler for one of their own, free of charge. So, at least there's that.

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

There's a local thread where a guy got accused of "slandering" from a local brewery's 'Chief Creative Officer' by saying this:



Was too simlilar to Jester King's logo:



These breweries are in the same state.

Was this on the local FB group? If so, how could you even find a discussion among all the BIFs, ****** trade offers and stores advertising their new shipments?

The comment about the similarity isn't wrong and if JK were more hostile about branding they could probably shut Lakewood down. JK won't because it would burn them in Austin.

The Lakewood beer is such weird marketing. It's a spring release with a goat theme right around the time bocks are about to be released, which traditionally have a goat theme, yet it's a black IPL.

 

[Fahmie25]

Tired Hands has/had a similar policy. They insisted that their draft system was set up to fill their growlers only, specifically to ensure that the beer was poured and stored properly, and to avoid wasting beer, so they would only fill Tired Hands branded growlers. Keep in mind that their growlers were not some proprietary shape/design only to be found at TH, they're just these things:

Despite their rules, every growler I've ever had from Tired Hands has lost carb somewhere between Ardmore and New Jersey, regardless of how I stored it in the car. So their policy is total ********.

But, I will give them credit, because apart from acknowledging that it's a pain in the ass rule, TH will now exchange any growler for one of their own, free of charge. So, at least there's that.

and as a side bonus they also may explode at any time!

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

Tired Hands has/had a similar policy. They insisted that their draft system was set up to fill their growlers only, specifically to ensure that the beer was poured and stored properly, and to avoid wasting beer, so they would only fill Tired Hands branded growlers. Keep in mind that their growlers were not some proprietary shape/design only to be found at TH, they're just these things:

Despite their rules, every growler I've ever had from Tired Hands has lost carb somewhere between Ardmore and New Jersey, regardless of how I stored it in the car. So their policy is total ********.

But, I will give them credit, because apart from acknowledging that it's a pain in the ass rule, TH will now exchange any growler for one of their own, free of charge. So, at least there's that.

I want to say that the Tired Hands Growler Policy® might be partially due to: A) PA laws about breweries only selling their beer in their own branded growlers (which not all actually follow) B) A growler has to have the GOVERNMENT WARNING on it (which not all actually follow) or C) Tired Hands wants to make sure their snowflake beer is in a container with their precious logo.