questions about diagram, starting to wire

[bagpiperjosh]

Not sure how you can fault the guy for wanting the diagram number. How do you make recommendations when you don't know the parameters of the system being worked on. You're talking about something that has the ability and capacity to kill you. I'm glad P-J doesn't take any of that lightly.

He does all this for free and isn't trying to keep customers. If you don't like working with him or can't give him the info he needs to help you, that's your problem.

I saw a thread where there was a bit of a battle over the capabilities of some of the components. No issue with people debating ideas in the open and learning from each other. That's different than just being a smart ass and saying, "You made the diagram, figure it out."

i said in an earlier post that i just saved the image from this website JUST LIKE THAT. i did NO EDITING to it. i don't have that number and he apparently just wasn't getting it. I don't think its a coincidence that alot of people on here find pj to be a jerk-off. I'm the 3rd person he has had to block on these forums? Gee i wonder why. no one else finds that to be a little odd?

either way, what i was asking had nothing to do with the diagram number, all of his diagrams do that same thing i was asking about.

everyone on here knows hes a prick. some are willing to put up with it to get free info. others are not. i am the latter of the two.

 

[P-J]

Not to sound like a dick at all. Pj i think u are going a little over the top w how ur acting.
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Ok...
Thank you for your thoughts about how I'm acting.

And???

Do you spend hundreds of hours supporting and developing ---

Never mind. It no longer matters. I'm done.!
You all figure it out for your selves.!
I'm just too old to deal with this absolute BS and abuse.

Good luck to all.!

 

[P-J]

Oh...
And thank you bagpiperjosh for your attitude in my attempt to help you and for striking the right nerve in pissing me off to the N'th degree.

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BTW.. Please thank the forum... Your mission has been accomplished.!

 

[jtkratzer]

i said in an earlier post that i just saved the image from this website JUST LIKE THAT. i did NO EDITING to it. i don't have that number and he apparently just wasn't getting it. I don't think its a coincidence that alot of people on here find pj to be a jerk-off. I'm the 3rd person he has had to block on these forums? Gee i wonder why. no one else finds that to be a little odd?

either way, what i was asking had nothing to do with the diagram number, all of his diagrams do that same thing i was asking about.

everyone on here knows hes a prick. some are willing to put up with it to get free info. others are not. i am the latter of the two.

Then you can pay an electrician who hopefully knows about brewing to work up your diagram and teach you how to do wiring since that's aparantly something you're not currently able to do or willing to teach yourself.

A whole three people blocked on a forum of 111,751 members? Wow. You must be super special.

I got blocked on this forum once.

 

[PleasantValleyHops]

Ok...
Thank you for your thoughts about how I'm acting.

And???

Do you spend hundreds of hours supporting and developing ---

Never mind. It no longer matters. I'm done.!
You all figure it out for your selves.!
I'm just too old to deal with this absolute BS and abuse.

Good luck to all.!

Ur a funny guy!!! Really!! People have no sense of humor! Whatever man. I dont need ur "help" so it doesnt matter to me wether u post or not. I liked some ideas u have but u let some little sh!t get ur panties in a bunch waaaaayyyyy to easily! Im sorry to the original thread starter. Didnt want to hijack ur thread w useless garbage but looks like thats what it became anyway. And even if i dont spends hundreds of hours developing and supporting i do wire up spaces to support $10,000,000 micron microscopes that have redundant pwr and protection bc to the people that use that a life is just as important as the fruit fly brains they r looking at.
Sir u need to drink a beer or stop drinking. Which ever is making u so angry all the time. Maybe cut back on that!! Ur profile says single. Im sure ur little temper tantrums r a part of that problem too!!

 

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[PleasantValleyHops]

U know it!!!!!!!! Im 6'6" 275 lbs!!! I know all too. And date a super model!!! Gotta love the internet!

 

[bagpiperjosh]

Oh...
And thank you bagpiperjosh for your attitude in my attempt to help you and for striking the right nerve in pissing me off to the N'th degree.

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BTW.. Please thank the forum... Your mission has been accomplished.!

i thought he blocked me?? o well.
there are plenty of other nice and friendly people on here, I dont need pjs poor attitude anyway. good riddance

 

[bagpiperjosh]

Then you can pay an electrician who hopefully knows about brewing to work up your diagram and teach you how to do wiring since that's aparantly something you're not currently able to do or willing to teach yourself.

A whole three people blocked on a forum of 111,751 members? Wow. You must be super special.

I got blocked on this forum once.

i am pretty special. I'm a PENS fan!!!

but seriously. to those who have helped, i sincerely appreciate it. those who want to internet battle.. no thanks

 

[bagpiperjosh]

Just feed the other side of the fuse back to the terminal strip and split from there. Boom. Assuming your terminal strip isn't ganged together.

PJ has a very short fuse (pun intended?), but he's a great resource to have. He spends hours every time someone asks for a diagram tailored to their situation. I have much respect for him, as do most people that have used his resources in the past.

not a bad idea. i think i may do something like that. thanks!

 

[msexton]

These types of misunderstandings/arguments seem to get out of hand rather quickly. I can see both of your points.

bagpiperjosh - you are looking for what you think is a simple answer to a simple question and I can understand that you would get frustrated when the author of the diagram you are using can't or won't provide an answer.

However, I can understand where PJ is coming from and perhaps it is not just about which diagram is which. The question you are asking hints at the fact that you do not have enough electrical experience to understand the diagram and if that is the case, it may not be wise for anyone to provide you more information as it is probably a dangerous proposition for you to undertake a build involving 30A 220V circuits.

I really hope you take some time to fully understand what you are attempting to build, familiarize yourself with electrical diagrams, and have someone with electrical experience help you or at least inspect your work before you plug anything into a live circuit if you are not completely comfortable.

Good luck and be careful,
Mike

 

[bagpiperjosh]

These types of misunderstandings/arguments seem to get out of hand rather quickly. I can see both of your points.

bagpiperjosh - you are looking for what you think is a simple answer to a simple question and I can understand that you would get frustrated when the author of the diagram you are using can't or won't provide an answer.

However, I can understand where PJ is coming from and perhaps it is not just about which diagram is which. The question you are asking hints at the fact that you do not have enough electrical experience to understand the diagram and if that is the case, it may not be wise for anyone to provide you more information as it is probably a dangerous proposition for you to undertake a build involving 30A 220V circuits.

I really hope you take some time to fully understand what you are attempting to build, familiarize yourself with electrical diagrams, and have someone with electrical experience help you or at least inspect your work before you plug anything into a live circuit if you are not completely comfortable.

Good luck and be careful,
Mike

i didn't understand a small part of HIS diagram. i have re-wired many rooms in my house and others. so i believe i have a basic understanding of whats safe and not safe. i don't put power to anything that i'm not 100% sure is correct. Id rather ask a "stupid" question and be 100% sure than just try to guess.